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I don't know where people are getting the idea that I suggested anyone appease him/them...
I'm not sure what else you could have meant when you stated that "they" (maybe you didn't mean the dems? But it sure reads that way) should have caved long ago. What reason is there to cave other then to continue to appease fascist tyrants?
"Maybe if we give them what they want, they'll stop holding the most vulnerable American populations hostage" is not a good strategy.
I couldn't have been more clear...
They're not holding anyone hostage. They're just killing them. And they're going to keep killing them up til the Dems cave. Dems have no bargaining chips. Shutdown continues? Conservatives win. Cave to demands? Conservatives win but they also stem the bleeding.
You could have been substantially more clear by, you know, actually saying something substantial. The only statement that you've made is that we should continue to give fascists everything they ask for because they keep threatening suffering if we don't. And let's be clear, the suffering is happening either way.
I'm not sure what you think the concept of holding someone hostage is, if not exactly this. You literally said they're not holding anyone hostage and then described a hostage situation, as "we're going to keep killing people until you meet our demands" is perhaps the most clear cut hostage situation that can exist. Additionally, if the dems had no bargaining chips, they wouldn't have anything to cave on, but the fact that we're even having this conversation proves otherwise. They have something the GOP wants, and the GOP is threatening to kill the population they're supposed to represent until they get it.
The more I read back your statement, the more completely batshit delusional it sounds. It's like you're using words with no understanding of what they mean.
And "stemming the bleeding" is literally a strategy of appeasement.
If your only strategy is to make up bullshit that everyone can see that I did not say, while ignoring everything I did, I'm not going to continue engaging this discussion.
This you? The first one is a hostage situation. This is where one party has makes threats to a second party unless a third party or government organization takes action according to their demands. The second is a thing we called appeasement, a policy of making concessions to an aggressor, usually out of fear of worse aggressions.
Act as offended as you want. I'm not looking for a discussion. I am addressing the things you are saying and telling you, point blank, that they are stupid as hell. It's not my fault if you're saying things you don't, or choose not to, understand. My "only stategy" is to not sit idly by while people say stupid shit like the garbage that you've been typing.
A hostage situation is not where they just straight up kill people for no reason. The point of holding someone hostage is that they DO NOT kill them UNLESS their demands aren't met.
Again, no it is not. The point is feeding people, not "appeasing" conservatives.
Then WTF are you doing here? It's not my fault that you don't understand basic concepts of the English language.
What is the strategy of continuing to extend the shutdown? What do Dems have to gain? Conservatives have been shutting down more and more of the government since day 1, on purpose. Again, they're very happy to keep it shut down. "Appeasing" conservatives is KEEPING the govt shut down...
You've really attached your ego to this delusional opinion, huh. The mental gymnastics here are almost as impressive as they are concerning.
Good luck, man. I have a suspicion that you need it more than I do. Hope whatever happened to leave you like this gets better.
Ah yes, personal insults are a strong signal of rational individual with a strong argument...