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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What does this even mean? How do you “close certain parts of the airspace”?

Do you invoke NORAD to prevent airplanes from flying into certain portions of US air space? Do you NOTAM certain airspace as class G? Do you maintain the class so VFR can’t fly through and have IFR avoid it? Do you put a TFR across the airspace?

Come on, dude. Be specific. FAA is DOT. You have the means to find someone who knows the correct words.

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because it’s a threat, not a safety measure

This is yet another loud chest beating to signal Republican incompetence

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Doesn’t feel like a threat. Feels like a scare tactic to people who don’t know enough about how flying works.

There is no way in hell he gets away with physically shutting out other planes. NORAD is US + Canada. Canada is extremely unlikely to acquiesce, so he’ll have to use unpaid American military. Because ICE is not building fast enough (ICE is his excuse to say, “see? I’m not using military on civilians!”), he relies on the military to keep a hold on the populace. If they become too disgruntled, he loses or at least greatly impedes his progress towards his desired control of the entire US government.

If he declares that towered airports are now class G, then airplanes are still able to land but at a greatly reduced rate

If he makes them into TFR’s, then he’ll add time for planes to go around them.

His “threat” feels completely toothless.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It means the airports serving the area are shut down due to lack of ATC staff. You don't need to get into military no fly zones. All commercial traffic to those areas will go away by itself.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That doesn’t mean anything. You can land at an airport without ATC. You can fly VFR. It’s unusual for ATP because, well, it severely limits when and where you can fly. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible. And if it’s a center and not an individual airport tower, you can probably fly IFR and cancel IFR when you get close to the airport and land under VFR.

You’ll still need fire trucks and such, but that shouldn’t be federal to my knowledge.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Big commercial airlines are not going to do that. Sure, general aviation can. That doesn't matter for the parts of the system that affect the stock market.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was a cargo plane (747? 737?) that flew VFR. It’s not impossible but would greatly reduce the rate of arrivals/departures.

It’s kind of unprecedented at where we are headed. I wouldn’t expect them to do this normally, but desperate times may lead to desperate measures. We’ll see (even though I don’t think air travel is a need)

If the airlines industry crashes though, our economy is royally fucked though so

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The economy is 5 companies in an AI trenchcoat. It's already fucked.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Everyone is starving, inflation is terrible.

Trump sits at the resolute desk. He types into his computer “ChatGPT, is the economy good?”

“Yes” it replies

…… and SCENE

[–] DesertCreosote@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Large commercial airlines already fly to untowered airports. It’s not incredibly common, but it does happen.

If as others have said, it massively reduces the number of flights that can be handled at once; you almost certainly won’t see parallel landings at an uncontrolled airport, for example. But it wouldn’t completely stop air travel.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Right, the scale is what matters here.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

I didn't realize how shitty MSM reporting was until they reported on something I actually know a lot about. The half truths and ridiculous misrepresentations belie a lack of intellectual rigor bordering on unethical.

And someone is going to say, "But that's not their role. They're appealing to the masses and need to generalize." I agree in our current system that's probably the best they can do, but it is not what a free press should or could be.