this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2025
311 points (98.1% liked)

Atheism

5365 readers
1 users here now

Community Guide


Archive Today will help you look at paywalled content the way search engines see it.


Statement of Purpose

Acceptable

Unacceptable

Depending on severity, you might be warned before adverse action is taken.

Inadvisable


Application of warnings or bans will be subject to moderator discretion. Feel free to appeal. If changes to the guidelines are necessary, they will be adjusted.


If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathizer or a resemblant of a group that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of any other group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you you will be banned on sight.

Provable means able to provide proof to the moderation, and, if necessary, to the community.

 ~ /c/nostupidquestions

If you want your space listed in this sidebar and it is especially relevant to the atheist or skeptic communities, PM DancingPickle and we'll have a look!


Connect with Atheists

Help and Support Links

Streaming Media

This is mostly YouTube at the moment. Podcasts and similar media - especially on federated platforms - may also feature here.

Orgs, Blogs, Zines

Mainstream

Bibliography

Start here...

...proceed here.

Proselytize Religion

From Reddit

As a community with an interest in providing the best resources to its members, the following wiki links are provided as historical reference until we can establish our own.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Religion is poison

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A new large-scale study of European adults suggests that, on average, being religiously educated as a child is associated with slightly poorer self-rated health after the age of 50. The research, published in the journal Social Science & Medicine, also indicates that this association is not uniform, varying significantly across different aspects of health and among different segments of the population.

Past research has produced a complex and sometimes contradictory picture regarding the connections between religiousness and health. Some studies indicate that religious involvement can offer health benefits, such as reduced suicide risk and fewer unhealthy behaviors. Other research points to negative associations, linking religious attendance with increased depression in some populations.

Whole thing was an interesting read thanks for sharing. I will say, the article pretty clearly doesn't support a "religion is poison" thesis. But rather a "religious upbringing is, on average, associated with poorer mental health later in life" with a whole bunch of additional asterisks and details, which is maybe a little more grounded of a way to interpret science generally speaking.

However, the model also identified a smaller portion of individuals for whom the association was positive, suggesting that for some, a religious upbringing was linked to better health outcomes. This variation highlights that an average finding does not tell the whole story.

Future research could build on these findings... ...More detailed measures of religious education could also help explain why the experience appears beneficial for some health domains but detrimental for others.

The original paper for those interested https://doi.org/10.1016/j.socscimed.2025.118210

Apparently they used a type of machine learning model to analyze the dataset. I'm not familiar enough to know if there are shortcomings to that approach (as one would expect with gen ai, but machine learning statistical analysis seems less likely to share those faults). Relevant context from the article:

The researchers employed an advanced statistical method known as a causal forest approach. This machine learning technique is particularly well-suited for identifying complex and non-linear patterns in large datasets.

[โ€“] p3n@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

All this with an average of -0.10 ( -2%) difference, for a factor that is almost impossible to isolate even across a large sample. Even if the results were conclusive, I'm not sure what self reported perception of health proves exactly. For example, if Donald Trump filled out the survey and reported his health as all 5s across the board, how do you interpret that?