A day after a deadly attack at the Heaton Park synagogue in Manchester, Neville posted a video online to say he had removed the flag from his property because it was being “used in a negative fashion”, as he urged his followers to question what it means to be patriotic.

Nah that's an absolutely cringe reason. I don't like Britain first. Also, the attack was done by a Jihadist, not a self-proclaimed "patriot".

Take back the Union Jack. 🇬🇧 This is the flag of the WHOLE Kingdom and of her other realms and territories. Not some bigot or fascist's flag.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cringe reason or not it's hard to deny it's not being co-opted by far right organisations for racist reasons.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, and? Racists breathe (unfortunately) should we stop breathing also? There are plenty of people who identify as Christian but are hateful bigots, does that mean I shouldn't be a Christian? If you started flying the Union Jack and St George's cross more, the racists would find something else if this was the case.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a dumb argument re: breathing. As before context. Their breathing isn't specifically being used to target people even if it results in people being targeted. If everyone started flying flags all the time (which is frankly bizarre, there's no historical precedent for this and frankly people who go all out over a flag in England have always been seen as a bit weird) the racists would see it as vindication and support.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

which is frankly bizarre, there's no historical precedent for this and frankly people who go all out over a flag in England have always been seen as a bit weird

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[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On VE day? That would most certainly come under special occasions, no? We're talking about day to day hanging of flags in the street.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Happens where I live quite frequently. Going back even to when my parents were younger.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Frequently like on special occasions? That's normal enough. I'm from a regular year round flag flying region. I can assure you it does not aid in cross community cohesion.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Flax is from Northern Ireland, I don't know why they feel it's so important for England to adopt their toxic flag culture.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

I am too, they should be well aware of the territorial nature of flags in these here parts.