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He quietly urged other military personnel to reflect on their own positions. “They should be confident in questioning possibly immoral or illegal orders,” he said, “remembering they are responsible for their own actions, and knowing others are asking the same questions.”

“If they have doubts about their orders, they are not alone,”

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Then why the fuck do you quit, freely giving up your important position so that gop can put a useful idiot there?

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because they can put you in military jail for disobeying a direct order. Man probably has a family he needs to feed. Military jail is not like civilian jail. UCMJ doesn't fuck around, and UCMJ being wielded by this administration is probably going to equal a bad time.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

I got downvoted so much for saying the same when that air force general quit.

It does no longer matter if the order is illegal, if half the nation is rotten. There can be an order to kill civilians and it has to be obeyed. You got a family to take care of and under Trump rule, said family can suddenly become terrorists if you refuse to bomb California or NYC or something. Which you won't be able to do anything about when you're in military jail.

Most people's opinion was that you should directly disobey the dictator and just let whatever happen to your family, happen.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

People in his command see this. Shit, we see this here. But his resigning has an impression on people, which may unfortunately be the only effect he can make. The whole unlawful orders thing is a sticky situation at best, and what all of us here in this tiny echo chamber believe is not what is reflected in the real world, and so some stand he may take may end up unseen and unheard while he rots away as an O-1 in Leavenworth.

Same with when Mattis was fired back in term one. Sometimes the only statement you can make is your resignation.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

exactly, this shit pisses me off.

Stop taking a fucking moral stand and quititng. all you're doing it is making it easier for puppets to get placed without having to go through the effort and legal issue of baselessly firing you.