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Context, not because I like Allen but because his info dump is on hand.

https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1977059498800873767

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[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The defendant has the right to identify their accuser…

It’s just that in this case, the defendant is the ATF because they were overstepping their authority.

And now the ATF will have at least a partial list of gun owners. I guess the intent is to provide relief to these and only these plaintiffs? i.e. the ATF can restrict the sale of firearms to individuals aged 18-20 with anyone NOT named on that list?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their accuser is the organization. That doesn’t give them the right to know every member of the organization. That’s a really bad precedent.

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I’m not a lawyer… I’m just talking out loud.

[–] trager_bombs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lots of loud people demanding she be fired and of course the ATF is being flamed a good amount too (just from what I can see). I appreciate your breakdown on this, some interesting ways it can unfold that I wouldn't have known to watch for. 🤘🏽🖤

[–] digredior@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 month ago

lol, yeah. I’m totally not a lawyer, but I do believe that in criminal cases that’s how it works between the defendant and the plaintiff. The defendant gets to face their accuser.

Now, this might be a civil suit, and I don’t know how that relates or changes in civil law. This seems like a civil tort case.