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X: We have a non-fascist competent party - ?
Y: No! Only leftism!
X: Well, howabout the fascist party.
Y: Only Leftism!
X: That’d be the fascist party then.
I don't know about your country, but our "non-fascist" party lost to a cartoon villain, so I wouldn't call them competent. All it would've taken was not treating their voters with disdain and acting like they cared, but apparently that was too difficult.
And before anyone tries to direct blame at the base that got demoralized by shitty leadership, actually consider why you never direct that blame at the people with all power to shape their campaigns; the people who are supposed to "represent" their constituents.
Well you’d be wrong. We’d have a functioning government for one. For two, it’d be in line with the Constitution instead of in direct opposition to it helped along by six corrupt justices.
If that’s not competent, we might need to start with a definition.
Ugh.
What? Is it so hard to believe that the Democrats dropped the ball? Do you not remember how they said nothing as police attacked student protesters during the free Palestine protests? When they said nothing as a group of random Israeli aligned thugs attacked people doing a peaceful sit in? When it took months for them to even acknowledge that Netanyahu wasn't exactly looking out for hostages? This is all without missing the even bigger issue, "the economy stupid," that they are still in denial about. Just because Trump's actively crashing it doesn't mean it was heading in the right direction before.
I'm not justifying anyone sitting out the election, but I am explaining why some people probably did. It doesn't matter how competent they were in office when they lost to a fascist who told everyone his intentions to be a dictator. They weren't even clear enough about it being the last election to prevent collapse of liberal democracy. They didn't fear monger hard enough quite frankly, and they still don't. It's disappointing beyond words.
Theyfucked up normally. This wasn’t them going out of their way to “show they didn’t care”, and there were plenty of Dems who spoke out, they just don’t have the mic and themic owners aren’t going to give them it.
They played it safe, again, and they fucked up, again.
Frankly every single idiot bastard that didn’t vote or voted trump can be written off as a poor excuse for humanity for fucking this up. Yes, I blame the Democrats but not half as much as I blame these self-righteous fuckwits who chose not to vote or who voted trump.
Stupid fucking shitweasels got us here, maybe they should wake the fuck up to how they fucked up instead of pointing at the one national party that exists to support them.
I blame the people who voted Trump the most and the non voters the second most.
The Democrat should have been able to run a half empty can of expired crab juice and won.
That's the problem, they kept doing that every election.
Biden did a fantastic job and they listened to the people who thought Biden was too old and ran Harris who would have been great.
Even if you don’t like her life would be a thousand times better right now for everyone in the world.
WHAT? They refused to do it for so long it cost them the election.
That is some bad historical revisionism when it's so fresh in our memory.
The party has told their sheep to ignore their history, it's time for party funding and voting for the "lesser evil".
You’re not actually disagreeing. They did wait too long, but they did it. You agree. That in itself is important. Can you imagine any republiQan doing that? No, because they only think about themselves.
Hell, they elected a demented rapist who’s stroking out every week instead of a legitimate candidate.
Historical revisionism? Not at all.
People who wanted Trump in or would didn’t care if he made it in or not cost them the election.
A shame you don't recognize how much of a problem the Democrats are. I voted blue just like I had in every election before then, but I was so angry and scared, because I saw all the mistakes they made that cost us everything. I saw them ignore young people on TikTok and Israel. I saw them shy away from every possible hint of populism. I saw as they denied that the economy was terrible, praying the inflation would even out even though inflation was merely the tip of the iceberg.
Life would be 1000 times better if Harris won, but the fault lies squarely on the ruling class and the party elites. They refused to do what was necessary to unite their base, and as disappointed as we can be in the voters working 9-5s with no hope of ever owning a future, it was the party's responsibility to win them over. Instead they underperformed in all those demographics because they refused to acknowledge problems or propose solutions. A party that has only become worse and will only fight the left.
Kid, I don’t know how many decades you’ve been doing this, but I’ve been doing it longer. Don’t preach that shit to me. Your “ignoring kids on TikTok” is hilarious because it’s so far down the list of the ways in which they routinely fuck up.
Comrade, you can bourgoise yourself blue if you want to but that’s just jerking off and ignoring the real issues. The real issues are: public involvement, messaging, and organizational communication.
It’s not a cabal of Zionist elites wrecking things, that’s what Bolsheviks tell college kids because they don’t know any better. It’s getting people to show up, and allowing members to communicate as individuals while operating as a national millions-strong political entity.
It’s hard to do honestly. I mean, it’s easy to do if you’re corrupt, stupid, and fascist. It’s hard to do if you’re honestly trying to do the right thing.
And whichever large city you’re in, please note the Slaver’s College requires you to engage with vast tracts of unpopulated land, and maybe they’re not as on board with luxury gay space communism as we are yet. (See the “messaging” part.)
It wasn't an important issue in the grand scheme of things, but it probably had a larger impact in driving away kids than most people want to admit. Voters often ignore actually important issues in favor of what they see in their daily life.
Also not sure where you got the idea that I thought Jewish cabals were why Democrats lost. AIPAC strategies to sink Democrats that oppose them are well known and explain their influence in the party, but the Gaza issue alone was only one brick in a very large wall. I'm not sure why you think being condescending is helpful. I'm not even sure if you're coming at this from a bone headed liberal perspective, or a boneheaded ml perspective; I guess they're both the same at the end of the day.
No, sorry just using Zionist cabals as shorthand for “them” which is usually what elites are a stand in for. Not actually saying that is a thing or has an effect.
When MAGA wanted change they took over the party.
The left just bitches that no one is listening to them and it’s sad.
Nah, what I'm saying is we need to take over the party and purge the feudalists acting as controlled opposition. That requires recognizing that there is a problem with the shit they feed us, not pretending that it's anything but shit. That requires not doing the same fucking bullshit party elites do of denying that the situation is terrible. That requires not giving up and believing there is no other way than sucking corporate dick.
Fear is how MAGA radicalized their base, and we have nothing but reasons to be afraid right now.
I agree! I’ve thought the same thing for forty years. The real truth, though, is that “the shit they feed us” is what we told them we wanted to hear - as far as they know.
Consider this: whatever perfect political organization of “the left” you can imagine already has a global communications platform. Several, in fact. So? So - prove the messages that resonate are popular. Prove that healthcare for all [or insert political goal here] wins elections.
That’s a crazy big ask. And you’ll get yea far before you start thinking “We could do a lot of things if we had some money”. Well - go get some money then. And before you know it, you’ve rebuilt the Democratic Party.
OR - we could infiltrate the party as-is and make it do the right things. Y’know keep the letterhead and like that but, with [insert platform] instead of sucking corporate dick. That has its own challenges of course.
But it’s either the former or the latter because we’re already living in the third way.
And still nothing is happening.
I think I’ll back the team with a chance.
Have fun on your knees
It’s better then whats happening now and I still don’t see the leftists doing a thing besides complaining about Mamdani not getting a chance along with Bernie.
They're the ones protecting and fucking with ICE. While Democrats vote yes on Trump's bullshit.
They’re doing stuff. They’re killing time before showing up in September and October 2026 screaming about how the Democrats don’t care about whatever it is.
They could be fielding candidates. But they won’t.
Biden did a terrible job. It took Biden hobbling out on stage, and making the Democrats the laughing stock of the world for them to do anything.
And what did they do? Put in a highly unpopular candidate, who kept saying that one of the least popular presidents we ever had was doing a good job.
Did you make this account just to say that?
No, I had an account, and said that. Why would I make an account just for that?
Beats me, it was the only comment you had
New accounts will have to make their first comment at some point. I'm not sure what's so surprising about that.
And yet you're still supporting the fascist. Interesting.
How is it supporting fascism? Please, enlighten us.
X: We have a non-fascist competent party - ?
Y: No! No parties, no state.
Far out. Good luck! Watch out for human nature, i’ve heard it’s a real rhymes-with-witch.
lol you're really leaning into the Democratic voter suppression the last day or so. What's got your jimmies so ruffled? You bitched up because Charlie Kirk got shot and taking it out on the rest of us?
Nothing has changed in my views at all.
Are you annoyed that leftists have different opinions to you. Do you want to stop me from sharing mine so you can only promote yours?
lol
You're not a leftist. You're a fascist aggressively trying to devide actual leftists and prevent coalition building by creating false equivalence and misrepresenting other peoples opinions in an attempt to help fascists solidfy their power through voter suppression.
You're a stochastic terrorist encouraging apathy and disengagement from people who may actually have good intentions around making genuine progress.
Oh get off it with the pseudo intellectual ad hominem nonsense.
Stop trying to co-opt a growing grass roots movement back towards the left, so that you can re-align it with some corpo-centrist nonsense that doesn't hold up to what people want and need.
And you better start understanding fast that the fascists already have their power solidified.
lol