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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 104 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Interesting reflection of Lemmy demographics that I haven't seen much "But he has a wife and kids, we shouldn't be celebrating his death uwu" rhetoric. Apparently even the most staunch centrists here acknowledge the harm Toiler Paper USA has done to the US populace.

There's some insane laundering of his legacy going on now over on Reddit and through American news outlets though, as if he didn't call Paul Pelosi's attacker a "patriot" or dismiss school shootings as a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment. MSNBC even fired a political analyst over calling him "divisive."

I'm not one of those people who blame every ill of the world on the "neoliberal cucks" or whatever, but damn if they don't have a point regarding the corporate capture of the United States news media currently.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 13 points 5 months ago

meh let the babies have their bottles. He said it himself as you posted that shootings are a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment so he went out, as far as I'm concerned, exactly as he would have wanted. He died for his cause so why should I or anyone else care?

One less Nazi.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's true, there isn't much sadness going around. It reminds me a bit of the reaction to the healthcare CEO shooting.

I remember the take that resonated with me the most was in a piece by Josh Johnson at that time. He first told a story about a friend named Marty that had died from disease. "Brian Thompson was a human being. He was a husband, a father. Ok. So was Marty." It feels the same this time around.

It is sad that a person died. It is sad that kids are now left without a father. But you can simultaneously acknowledge that the person who has died has actively helped to create more people who lost their loved ones. And once you do that, it is hard to hold up the general sympathy.

It's not my thing to celebrate the death of a person. No matter how evil. I cannot wholeheartedly yell out good riddance. But weighing one against the other, I can't force a tear.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is sad that kids are now left without a father.

I challenge this point based on the sexual proclivities of right tards like Kirk. Hopefully the mother isn't fully brainwashed and takes this opportunity to get the kids away from those people.

[–] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

he didn't call the attacker a patriot. He called anyone who would bail the attacker a patriot (and apparently to have a talk with the attacker and then uncover some conspiracy or something?)

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My bad, in the article he does specify that whoever bails him out is a patriot, but I remember him on a livestream saying that Paul Pelosi deserved it, because the conspiracy theory he wanted to talk to the attacker about is the one where he's Paul Pelosi's secret boyfriend. The rights pushed a lot of homophobic narratives about the attack at the time.

I wish I could link you to a source, but unfortunately Google and other searches for anything related to Kirk is pulling up the breaking news about his death and sensationalist reactions to it. If you want to try to find it yourself, it should be in media from end of 2022/beginning of 2023.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If he really believed there was a conspiracy and that this suspect would reveal it then why would he think they'd be released on bail at all?

It was really a low key attempt to get a guy out of jail for doing something he liked without dealing with the backlash from doing it himself.

[–] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

I don't even want to try to comprehend what these kind of people are thinking/are up to.

but doesn't mean we should tell lies about them either. Was just correcting a small mistake i saw. It's not because they're lying everytime they open their mount that we can't just be truthful :).