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Oh, no, I never meant Ender as about "total experience" or hedonism (that also why I pointed out that it wasn't premeditated).
Just that the duality is a sort of step-by-step consequence where firstly Ender had/chose one experience & only after that one the other (when presented with the second choice he already "just" had the first experience and wasn't wishing more of it).
We are made of experience & less of premeditation.
Sorry, I don't actuality think Ender works as this example, too young & the story/the genocide presented as an too easy choice (and I'm to clumsy with words to express myself properly).
But, with a lot of changes imagine the characters first choice being on the planet to save the eqq queen (as if that was a separate Ender) - the choice between not being destructive & assuring humanity is safe.
And I still agree with everything you wrote abut humans basically, my sub-point was somewhere within that
Yes, but in Ender's that against self interest is saving a bug, not eg deciding to stop fighting & let humanity fall (if he had known it wasn't a sim).
The 'against self-interest' is usually so smol that it's basically like having a pet - I have to feed it & sometimes it's work (the return is in the feeling, the experience, and friendship - and to that, I'm saying that saving a potentially dangerous species is a bit similar to that one person).
Sorry for not replying to this for a while, been busy/distracted.
Basically: Ah, I have misunderstood you somewhat, thank you for the corrections, and well basically I agree completely.
Only possibly thing I could add is that uh... yeah, Ender's version of 'against self interest'... is itself potentially genocidal to humanity, it is very extreme, so... yeah that aspect of it is pretty rare in fiction, its usually nowhere near that grand...
So yeah I agree, Ender probably is not the best example of a more 'normal' version of that.