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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

Obama lost the House of Representatives in years 3 and 4. And again in years 5 and 6. Then he lose both the House of Reps and the Senate in years 7 and 8. That was the thanks he got for the ACA. He pushed for progress, got it, and the left voters never showed up for more.

You want progress? You need to vote and give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be clear the ACA was Romneycare...not progress.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Romneycare that didn't kick into action until 2014. And because state agencies got to rebrand their programs, you had some crazy A/B poll testing results.

In Kentucky, a new Marist poll conducted for NBC News finds that 57 percent of registered voters have an unfavorable view of “Obamacare,” the shorthand commonly used to label the 2010 Affordable Care Act. That’s compared with only 33 percent who give it a thumbs up – hardly surprising in a state where the president’s approval rating hovers just above 30 percent.

By comparison, when Kentucky voters were asked to give their impression of "kynect," the state exchange created as a result of the health care law, the picture was quite different.

A plurality – 29 percent – said they have a favorable impression of kynect, compared to 22 percent who said they view the system unfavorably. Twenty-seven percent said they hadn't heard of kynect, and an additional 21 percent said they were unsure.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (23 children)

I look at it as a Mexican standoff. The protest left voter is not going to win this Mexican Standoff because the Dems have an out, to go for the center voter. Which is a voter that actually shows up. The leftist has no alternative. Bemoan the two party system if you want, but there is no alternative.

When the left doesn't show up, Dems just go to the center even more.

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The ACA is a huge black mark on Obama's legacy. Clinton certainly wasn't going to push for universal healthcare. She was just a terrible candidate.

It was just really hard to get excited to pay 1100$ a month for bare bones family insurance. (At the time...it's closer to 2500 a month today).

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (23 children)

Oh the most progressive healthcare reform ever is suddenly a bad thing? Fucking lol.

Want more? Vote and give them consistent and overwhelming victories. 2 years every 16 years is going to be slow. Bump that up champ.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Oh the most progressive healthcare reform ever

In America? That was Medicaid, and was established in 1965 by adding Title XIX to the Social Security Act. The PPACA was the biggest increase in enrollment since it was established, but was by no means universal or even approaching the scope of the original act.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Your first sentence is a joke right? Most progressive health care ever is a misnomer. It was Romneycare rebranded.

Get a clue

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