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This is what I've been trying to explain to people for a few days now. Grifters like Charlie Kirk or Dinesh D'Souza will just go along with whatever Trump says on Epstien. They never believed in or cared about QAnon and the conspiracy bullshit. They opportunistically picked it up when it was useful, they'll drop it now that it's inconvenient, and a big chunk or MAGA will listen to them.
But guys like Alex Jones, who, if he isn't actually a die-hard true-believer, at least knows that his audience is entirely die-hard true-believers, will not do that. They have staked everything on a made up story about satanic pedophiles that started with Comet Ping-Pong and ended with Jeffery Epstien, and they can't just drop it. That is another large chunk or MAGA, and it will go to war with anyone, even Trump, to keep their delusion going.
Yep. I have trumpers in my life and it is safer to say they're more Jones/Rogan fan boys. This is two delusions and bullshit piling up against each other.
The most you'll get is them trying to loop Biden and Bill Gates into the pedostuff too so they don't feel they've totally lost their way
Yeah, a lot of people keep telling me, "Oh, the MAGA cult will just believe whatever he tells them," and sure, some of them will, but others only go along with it because they're convinced Trump is about to expose the, "deep-state cabal." They have a fictional Trump in their head that they will protect at all costs, even from real-world Trump. (...and then they'll probably claim that real-world Trump is a cloned body double and the real Trump is recuperating in a medbed and planning his triumphant return or something).
It does make a lot of sense that what they're wedded to are the cult beliefs, rather than a specific cult preacher.
Spirits that I've cited
My commands ignore.
Hey if this the level of delusion needed to finally end the two party system then I'm all for it.