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[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Vance is gonna run in 2028 and "step down", since the 22nd amendment states no on can be elected twice. That way, Trump wasn't elected, Vance was. They'll just make it very clear that a vote for Vance is a vote for trump.

[–] teft@piefed.world 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

No one ineligible for the presidency can hold the office of vp so that wouldn't work unless they made trump speaker of the house and the pres and veep both resigned or were defenestrated.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They will do what Putin did and create a new, unelected, position, appointed by the president. The vote for Vance will be understood as a vote for Trump, and as soon as he wins (somehow with 90%+ of the vote), he will abdicate his responsibilities to the newly created office, and the President will become a purely ceremonial role.

The blueprint is there.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That’s interesting…

But I don’t think it says anywhere that the speaker of the house has to be an elected member of congress?

[–] teft@piefed.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nope. It can be anyone except someone already appointed in the executive branch. It’s just tradition that the speaker was a representative.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine Trump having to 'slum it' in the lower house though.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

He’d only show up when it mattered and leave a peon to do any actual work. Probably Steven Miller.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But that's just it, the loophole would be that he is eligible to be president, but just that he can't be elected as such. It's pretty dumb but the phrasing of the 22nd does use the word "elected", clearly we all know the intent but the words may have undermined the spirit.

Either way, both the VP and the president have the same stated basic requirements, but the 22nd amendment makes no statement of the VP. While common sense suggests it's dumb to have a person that hit the term limit as VP, it is not expressly codified.

So no matter the interpretation of the 22nd amendment, it seems like he could be VP. If you have a sane interpretation of the 22nd amendment as a hard term limit, then the succession would skip such a VP, just like it would skip a foreign born person.

[–] teft@piefed.world 5 points 7 months ago

The 12th amendment states no person ineligible for the presidency can hold the vice presidency.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

I'm surprised people here think he's going to live that long. He's so old...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Almost literally what Putin did