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Lawyers for the plaintiff argue that Tesla’s driver-assistance feature called Autopilot should have warned the driver and braked when his Model S sedan blew through flashing red lights, a stop sign and a T-intersection at nearly 70 miles an hour in the April 2019 crash. Tesla lays the blame solely on the driver, who was reaching for a dropped cell phone.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

while you’re propelling a tonne of metal

The Model S weighs 2 tonnes in fact, or 2.2 US tons. Electric cars are insanely heavy, so much so that existing traffic safety items like guard rails aren't really designed to handle the heavier ones.

Not sharing to be Pedantic Internet User, just mind-boggling how heavy those things are.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

yeah nah absolutely happy for the correction!

Fuck me, two tonnes? I bought myself an EV a few months back in an estate shape to replace my diesel estate, and honestly I hadn't noticed much of a difference. I assume the drivetrains are a bit lighter but the batteries are a lot heavier than a tank full of dino juice.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Actually, this is one of the arguments for discouraging EV mass adoption in favor of wider public transit options. More heavy vehicles like this seriously increases wear and tear on roadways, and more importantly BRIDGES. If most of your bridge traffic now weighs double what it did when you threw the thing up in the 80s, that's going to be an issue for your stress calculations.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I believe the Hummer EV is around 9,000lbs.

We were just at Pearl Harbor and the submarine on display there had batteries weighing in at 450,000lbs and that only propelled it for ~100 miles depending on the speed. The diesel engines could propel it for 18,000 miles before refueling. This was of course 1940s technology.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

They have all that weight from the battery, but they can carry it very low in the body of the car. That combined with the great low-end torque of electric motors can make them feel a lot more nimble than an ICE car sandbagged to the same weight.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Guard rails can’t handle two tons?

Pickup up trucks weigh between 4 and 6 tons.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It was just an overblown article trying to fear monger. A guard rail can't handle a direct, perpendicular impact from something that heavy at a high rate of speed, but most guard rails are parallel to the road and only see glancing blows from EVs, ICE vehicles, and semis.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago