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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 13 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Considering humans have been eating processed meats like these for centuries, I think I’ll take my chances.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nitrites only date back to the middle of the 19th century.

[–] kylco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

We've been smoking, salting, and otherwise preserving meat for way longer than that, though. People usually died off from other things before cancer got them, that's all. The relatively high number of cancer deaths is a product of medical intervention getting so good and so widespread that we don't regularly die of sepsis from stepping on a splinter or catching communicable disease anymore.

Absolutely, fuck cancer. But cancer went from being a minor concern to a relatively common one because we conquered so many other avenues of death, systematically and carefully, until we're down to time, neglect and negligence as the three main ways humanity gets itself to the Reaper.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 17 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

And our rates of intestinal cancer have been rising steadily to the point where now it's a common killer, so we've become afraid of it in our quest to live long, pain-free lives.

Things change as we learn. Why we don't use lead in our pipes anymore. Safe, biocompatible plastic only.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

If the rates have been rising, wouldn’t that prove it’s not processed meats like these? It would be something that’s being introduced at a steady rate lately, not something that’s been around for centuries.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

Nitrites have being slowly "introduced" at a steady rate lately

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago

It is likely many factors at once but it's also important not to assume causation where there is a correlation. Keep in mind also our mechanism of detection is better now than it's ever been.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I think I'll take 60 years of eating really tasty meats and foods at the risk of slightly increasing my chance of getting cancer and dying at like 65 instead of 85.

[–] joshchandra@midwest.social 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

But it's also about quality of life; do you want the last decade to be in increasing pain with challenged mobility or not as bad?

[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 8 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, I try not to make it my entire diet, but… no pepperoni? Why live?