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On June 27, in Huntington Park, California, federal agents from Customs and Border Protection (CPB) carried out a violent raid on the home of a working class family while Jenny Ramirez was caring for her two children, aged six and one.

In a scene of militarized terror more typical of a war zone than a residential neighborhood in Los Angeles, agents used an explosive device to blast the front door off its hinges—without warning or announcement—before storming the premises.

Home surveillance footage of the raid shows eight heavily armed agents, guns drawn, storming the home after blowing the door off its hinges. Later in the video, Ramirez and her children are seen being escorted out by the agents.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It may read like it but this is not directed at you personally. It's directed at the wider universe of anti-gun liberals who've started crawling out of the woodwork to ask the same question you did and my reply is a snapshot of the overwhelming aggravation that many 2A people feel when hearing it.

Where the gun people?

It's California, there aren't that many "Gun People" around. California has doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down to make sure that their populace is absolutely as disarmed as possible. In fact nearly every god damned city that is having these kinds of ICE Raids is located in a State that's done the same thing. New York City, Chicago, Portland, and Denver are just a few examples.

Add onto that these kinds of immigrants can't legally purchase firearms so they're unable to do it themselves or even create Community / Mutual Aid situations and to make it worse they are living in ethnic enclaves so there's no regular citizens around to help.

The next question is likely to be "Okay, so where's all the 2A freaks from everywhere else?" and the answer to that is...how the fuck are they supposed to know when ICE is going to raid a place? Especially if that place is in another Town, County, or even State?

After that its usually something like "Well these Gun Nuts should just start countering ICE wherever they find them and not wait for a specific situation.".

The Anti-Government 2A people you are asking about tried 5 years ago and the same people who are today asking "Where the gun people?" wanted absolutely fucking nothing to do with them.

It happened back in 2020 and no one wanted to help. (Those guys received massive prison sentences by the way.) The Boogaloo Boys in general, and those two specifically, were then widely criticized for their actions even in minority and immigrant communities.

Hell the NRA is still being mocked for its Anti-Government / Pro 2A stance from thirty years ago!

Short sighted idiots cheer while Government disarms its citizens and they strongly back any law or movement intended to disarm them more and faster. Then when some people who are still armed go after Government Thugs they make it a point to shit on them while wishing them a quick journey to hell.

Then these same idiots have the absolute audacity to ask "Where are they?". It's the wrong people asking the wrong question.

The correct questions are "Where the fuck has everyone else been for the last 30 years?" followed by "Why the fuck should we help you now?" and the correct questioners the Anti-Government Gun Owners.