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On June 27, in Huntington Park, California, federal agents from Customs and Border Protection (CPB) carried out a violent raid on the home of a working class family while Jenny Ramirez was caring for her two children, aged six and one.

In a scene of militarized terror more typical of a war zone than a residential neighborhood in Los Angeles, agents used an explosive device to blast the front door off its hinges—without warning or announcement—before storming the premises.

Home surveillance footage of the raid shows eight heavily armed agents, guns drawn, storming the home after blowing the door off its hinges. Later in the video, Ramirez and her children are seen being escorted out by the agents.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

So, they are using breaching charges and military tactics. Where the gun people? Left wing 2A where you at?

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're asking this question you should be joining their ranks. Don't wait for someone else to protect you. Arm yourself and learn how to use it.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm not in america. I know how to use firearms and am trained.

I am asking the most armed country why it is a single way range right now, when they keep saying they have firearms for this specific situation.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would seem that by "tyrannical government" most of us actually meant "non-whites".

More directly, I would guess the people who are in a position to do something, like myself, would prefer not to be the only one showing up against a militarized police force and federalized national guard troops. Armed resistance isn't widely viewed as necessary even though I would argue we're past the point where it should have been widespread. Perhaps holding that belief and not engaging in such methods makes me a coward, I'm honestly not sure. I do know that I see a lot more sentiments like "where are the armed leftists" than I do "how do I join an armed leftist organization" and I don't think we're going anywhere until that changes. Everyone, myself included, is waiting on someone else to step in and stop this rather than deciding that it's up to us to do it ourselves.

I think it's also that each individual person is so isolated and each small geographic region has such a lack of interconnected community. Each individual person, no matter how well armed or courageous, is nearly powerless against these organized paramilitary occupying forces in their communities.

[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then keep your fucking mouth shut. We left wing armed people in America are few and far between, and it’s our own party’s fault. None of my IRL friends even k ow I own guns, and they’d be horrified if they did. I can’t buy standard magazines that my guns literally shipped with in the box (they are now banned), can no longer buy the same guns I already own (they are now banned), and in another year I’ll need to attend a class and fill out a form for a permit if I want to purchase a firearm, regardless of me owning them already.

“2a where you at?” <— fuck you, that’s fucking where. We’re probably less than 1% of the population, way too few to make any difference.

My fellow Democrats did this.

Enjoy fascism, assholes. You made sure we can’t stop it.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 2 points 21 hours ago

Fuuuucking preach. Couldn't have said it better if I tried.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Because most places require checks and classes. The myth of walking in and walking out with a gun in ten minutes isn't real in 90% f the United states.

Then there's learning how to shoot it without scaring yourself then there's actually knowing how to use one under stress

Now, one would have the learn to be cold blooded enough to want to harm someone

Those are HIGH barriers to cross, even if one a owns a gun.

One should always save that for last. Always.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If your skin ain't in the game you don't get to complain. It's easy to tell "other people" to go risk their lives.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Then Americans should stop saying their guns are for when tyrants show up.

I don't have skin in the game when the orange turd has threatened my country? Take that nonsense to the circus.

Real tired of your shit Yankee.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bruh, the USA absolutely fucking excels in fucking complaining and invading without a shred of skin in the game. They have fucking earned to get tossed all the shit in the world at them.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

I’m not in america.

Stopped reading.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It may read like it but this is not directed at you personally. It's directed at the wider universe of anti-gun liberals who've started crawling out of the woodwork to ask the same question you did and my reply is a snapshot of the overwhelming aggravation that many 2A people feel when hearing it.

Where the gun people?

It's California, there aren't that many "Gun People" around. California has doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down to make sure that their populace is absolutely as disarmed as possible. In fact nearly every god damned city that is having these kinds of ICE Raids is located in a State that's done the same thing. New York City, Chicago, Portland, and Denver are just a few examples.

Add onto that these kinds of immigrants can't legally purchase firearms so they're unable to do it themselves or even create Community / Mutual Aid situations and to make it worse they are living in ethnic enclaves so there's no regular citizens around to help.

The next question is likely to be "Okay, so where's all the 2A freaks from everywhere else?" and the answer to that is...how the fuck are they supposed to know when ICE is going to raid a place? Especially if that place is in another Town, County, or even State?

After that its usually something like "Well these Gun Nuts should just start countering ICE wherever they find them and not wait for a specific situation.".

The Anti-Government 2A people you are asking about tried 5 years ago and the same people who are today asking "Where the gun people?" wanted absolutely fucking nothing to do with them.

It happened back in 2020 and no one wanted to help. (Those guys received massive prison sentences by the way.) The Boogaloo Boys in general, and those two specifically, were then widely criticized for their actions even in minority and immigrant communities.

Hell the NRA is still being mocked for its Anti-Government / Pro 2A stance from thirty years ago!

Short sighted idiots cheer while Government disarms its citizens and they strongly back any law or movement intended to disarm them more and faster. Then when some people who are still armed go after Government Thugs they make it a point to shit on them while wishing them a quick journey to hell.

Then these same idiots have the absolute audacity to ask "Where are they?". It's the wrong people asking the wrong question.

The correct questions are "Where the fuck has everyone else been for the last 30 years?" followed by "Why the fuck should we help you now?" and the correct questioners the Anti-Government Gun Owners.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

I just unloaded most of my defense ammo in preparation for going to the range tonight.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Honestly I've been seeing a Lot of diversity at the range lately. Many females too. People are arming up.