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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I often wondered how nazi germany happened given the democracy and find myself caught up in the process despite my best efforts and the efforts of many people I know.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The only efforts that matter going forward is for people now to give up their own comfort to secure the future for others. Either we trust each other with our lives or we forfeit our futures to authoritarian rule. I maybe only have another 30-40 years left. 20 years of "healthy" living. Its not me who's losing out big.

Id happily donate those years to a cause that was real and not just talk. If my only choice is to lead it myself, fine, but someone needs to start following.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think people need to give up comfort. At least not to any reasonable level. We need to make it so that we are doing things efficiently. Passive housing using geothermal/solar/wind and such. People able to afford to live where they can be carless.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The comfortable will never rebel. No one is going to give you those things and we can't build them without dismantling the current system. You're going to have to get supremely uncomfortable in order to give others the possibility of having those things at some indeterminate time in the future or face a dystopian future so bleak that it will make The Hunger Games seem like a fun vacation. Either way, comfort is rapidly fading from the picture.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

Thats not people giving up comfort, that is them losing it. Nobody will rebel due to self sacrifice. Many act to rebel from loss of things that don't directly cause discomfort but they have the cognitive ability to see the long term consequences that will come of it.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

there are very rich and powerful people who spend all of their 'working' time actively fighting against those things. They (clearly) would sooner support the construction of the fourth reich in america than give up profit streams like energy/housing/automotive.