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[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)

For me, this was inevitable so can only shrug.

Personally I would like a revolution resembling Ukraine, but not possible. And even if there were, most of the population does not understand democracy needs paper ballots counted properly, with recounts. So any revolution will ultimately be more of the same later.

Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy, and I am grateful things as less bad than I imaged. At least there are no official death camps in this bill.

I can only sigh and hope to keep out of political prison for a few more years ; but realistically will probably be arrested this or next year trying to protect neighbors .

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yep. We had a solid 4 years for USA to figure some shit. Global pandemic to nail it home too. We didn't.

Republicans have been at this for decades. First round of Trump should have been enough. It wasn't. Now Republicans have full control.

You can only warn people for so many years. We are past that point. Everyone that refused to listen are now going to get what their wilful ignorance wanted.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy

I think the U.S. is too large with too many cultural differences by region to maintain a democracy in the long run. Ideally we would balkanize, with the blue states going their own way and forming their own democracies. Northeast blue state democracy. West coast blue state democracy.

I have no interest in continuing to try to maintain a democracy with low IQ fascist domestic terrorists anymore. It clearly isn't working.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

While I can easily imagine the USA splitting up, the fascists are in every community though.

I like the quote from Sontag

10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and the remaining 80 percent can be moved in either direction. / Susan Sontag

The problem with avoiding the fascists is that they are always everywhere at a low percentage; and a good society requires the equally low percentage of decent persons to convince the vast majority of people to not go rogue.

This requires good governance in local areas; and that is a finicky thing indeed. If the USA splits up, who knows how that goes? I would not put money on any region being bad or good in two generations

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

At least there are no official death camps in this bill.

Sorry to be a downer, but ICE's funding is now high enough that one of the few plausible explanations for it is that they plan to create concentration camps of immigrants (and, hey, well we have all this money and space, maybe just all other undesirables too...?)

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

Those are unofficial death camps. Maybe.

I put care and effort into the word ‘official’.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Personally I would like a revolution resembling Ukraine

You want the US to be invaded by invaded by an even bigger piece of shit country for us to have to fend off?

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We do not have a Russia next door, which started the war to suppress the same movement in many Russian cities.

Siberia does not count

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

That's why they'll never expect an invasion from Greenland