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We're entirely fucked, and this seems to be the only thread about it, it's not gotten much activity. Either people are writing their paragraphs (thanks for not using AI to make your opinions for you), or we're all feeling about as motivated as I am right now (or less so?) or people just aren't going to engage....
I've never felt worse for my country than I do today, and I thought it couldn't get worse than yesterday, at least tomorrow is looking up right?
For me, this was inevitable so can only shrug.
Personally I would like a revolution resembling Ukraine, but not possible. And even if there were, most of the population does not understand democracy needs paper ballots counted properly, with recounts. So any revolution will ultimately be more of the same later.
Some countries are simply not cut out for democracy, and I am grateful things as less bad than I imaged. At least there are no official death camps in this bill.
I can only sigh and hope to keep out of political prison for a few more years ; but realistically will probably be arrested this or next year trying to protect neighbors .
Yep. We had a solid 4 years for USA to figure some shit. Global pandemic to nail it home too. We didn't.
Republicans have been at this for decades. First round of Trump should have been enough. It wasn't. Now Republicans have full control.
You can only warn people for so many years. We are past that point. Everyone that refused to listen are now going to get what their wilful ignorance wanted.
The Democratic Party shares equal blame. I think my more recent posts the last few years criticizes them without mentioning the Republicans because when trying reform sinners one does not try to save the devil too.
But all my issues with them are moot if most of the country uses private companies to decide primaries and elections without oversight. And when most of the population have no issues with any of that.
But like a little child I still hoped, and offered advice and tried to educate. Now, the time for such things are done.
I’m pretty sure the democrats will win by a landslide next year, and there may even be a democratic president, but it will not change facts on the ground. It’s going to be a bad next few decades
Stop. Just stop.
It's old. It's stupid. It's profoundly ignorant.
Just stop.
Oh, I have stopped, as of today I am no longer engaging this debate. Hopefully this takes and I don’t spend energy while I figure out what to do
Tell us when you figure it out, because we’re all equally fucked.
That is so true
I think the U.S. is too large with too many cultural differences by region to maintain a democracy in the long run. Ideally we would balkanize, with the blue states going their own way and forming their own democracies. Northeast blue state democracy. West coast blue state democracy.
I have no interest in continuing to try to maintain a democracy with low IQ fascist domestic terrorists anymore. It clearly isn't working.
While I can easily imagine the USA splitting up, the fascists are in every community though.
I like the quote from Sontag
The problem with avoiding the fascists is that they are always everywhere at a low percentage; and a good society requires the equally low percentage of decent persons to convince the vast majority of people to not go rogue.
This requires good governance in local areas; and that is a finicky thing indeed. If the USA splits up, who knows how that goes? I would not put money on any region being bad or good in two generations
Sorry to be a downer, but ICE's funding is now high enough that one of the few plausible explanations for it is that they plan to create concentration camps of immigrants (and, hey, well we have all this money and space, maybe just all other undesirables too...?)
Those are unofficial death camps. Maybe.
I put care and effort into the word ‘official’.
You want the US to be invaded by invaded by an even bigger piece of shit country for us to have to fend off?
We do not have a Russia next door, which started the war to suppress the same movement in many Russian cities.
Siberia does not count
That's why they'll never expect an invasion from Greenland
We were fucked when he got elected, we're just watching it all play out. Nothing has changed and it will just keep getting worse, it's all its ever done.
Yeah, most of us paying attention felt these feelings back in November of last year. The rest of the world, and those not paying close attention, are still catching up in little bursts.
America is being dismantled and destroyed by a convicted criminal being backed by a minority of powerful (and powerfully stupid) people all across the nation.
They haven't won yet, for the record... But they are winning, and millions of people without wealth will pay for all of this. Me, you, just about everyone reading this... We will all be impacted while the wealthy do nothing but gain more wealth and power.
I imagine it's a matter of time before an actual threat of civil war begins to bubble up. There are too many people that oppose what's going on. America has finally been defeated by it's enemies, and only those paying attention understand this.
I guess Putin is the real victor in all of this. His stooge has done well. Fuck every traitorous member of the GOP for allowing this.
That's... a very russian attitude!
I mean, there might be just a many people in full on panic, bug out mode.
Something like this is complex, which means people aren't going to react to it until they start actually seeing the effects. And when they do, judging by how uninformed most Americans are, they won't know what things, like this, resulted in their current state of affairs. And a large portion of our populace who subscribes to propaganda networks will be made to believe it wasn't the GOP that did it.
I'm not saying there's going to be a cataclysm-level event and all of a sudden America ceases to exist. But this country, as we've always known it, is over. And our quality of life is going to steeply decline. And that decline will be steeper the poorer you are.
We aren't crawling out of this hole for a long time, if at all. Prepare yourself to watch this nation steadily decline for the remainder of our lives.
It's tough but what is there to say? Oh we got fucked again? Kind of feel like a parrot with one phrase at this point lol. I think most people are more or less speechless.
You know that quiet pause a dog takes before trying to bite your face off? The US keeps taking that pause. At some point a twig is going break during that pause, and we're going to have a right mess on our hands.