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I think it's mainly because the entire PC market is shrinking. Most people use phones and tablets these days and those don't come with Windows.
and people love to work on Macs because its more convenient than windows when they are programming too.
I'm seeing that a lot with traffic. It's been a steady tick up on mobile and a steady downward for PCs in general. People just use their phones for more things now. And I don't see that trend changing. Including this comment.
Source: web dev with a site that helps maintain a pretty big corporate site.
I think it's both. People who've never before really considered using Linux have started migrating off of Windows ever since the end of service announcement for Win10.
Sure. But I think the total number of desktop Linux users is a two digit millions number. So those few millions we've attracted lately are more a decimal point when talking about 400 million. They're there and part of the picture, though.
That sounds horrible
This is a great example of people taking sides and not seeing past their own noses about it.
Also of not reading past the headline, but whatever.
If I have to choose between the janky but unlocked environment of Windows and a world of iOS and Googlified Android users I'd pick Windowsland in a heartbeat.
We need a better integrated device open alternative, and fast.
I'm sorry, I don't really get it. What sides? And who didn't read the article? That's their main conclusion as well. Plus they add some fluff before and after. But that's not really important. Could you maybe explain what an "device open alternative" is? I don't know that term. And it's kind of hard to find anything just by googling "device open".
I'm talking about all the people going "good" in this thread out of hostility for Windows/MS without realizing the change being described is a move to a more closed-off, privacy-invasive environment, not the opposite. Which is a result of either not reading past the headline or being so polarized on the issue that they are willing to take the downsides for the sake of schadenfreude.
As for what I meant by that vague term, I just didn't want to say "an open mobile OS". Mostly because... well, it invites a lot of open questions about Android I don't think are interesting right now, but also because I think "mobile OS" is increasingly a misnomer.
People are clearly using iOS and Android as their main computing platforms now, both of them are rolling out full multi-window desktops for larger devices out of the box and they're both already usable that way with limitations right now. When you say "mobile OS" people visualize a phone and want to talk about Linux on phones and... that's probably not the right answer or the right way to look at it.
Thanks for explaining. It's a bit tricky if you invent words without explaining them at the same time.
You're right. I'm used to read stupid takes here on Lemmy, so I mainly ignored those. It is like you said. People are moving more towards mobile devices where they're not in control of anything. They're mostly walled gardens. You don't get administrator privileges, Google or whoever is making those choices for you. And they're so easy to use, you don't even learn anything about the internet and their inner workings. It's all a service and content magically appears on your screen. All of that is a step down from where we've been before.
I struggle to recommend Microsoft instead. While it's still a computer and that definitely changes things, they're headed in exactly the same direction. Everything is set on spying per default these days, and they also try to lure you in into their walled gardens, paid services instead if owning software or disk space... It's not the same level. But not good either.
Ideally we don't want any of them to be in control of our platforms and devices, but have some control ourselves. With smartphones that's next to impossible. With windows you might be able to pull it off if you put in some effort, since it's not the default experience. Given it's something that can be changed.