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128 Democrats join House Republicans to block AOC, Al Green bid to impeach Trump
(www.independent.co.uk)
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If you're talking about American public opinion having double standards, ok. If you're talking about me, you're putting words in my mouth.
Correct me if I'm reading your post wrong, but you stated that people should chill out about this declaration of war because he didn't actually declare a war, he just casually dropped some bombs. I understand that to mean that people should accept the irrationality because somehow the US doesn't have a system in place to police itself. Curious how that would play out if other countries did the same. Oh no we didn't declare war, it was this fat idiot Hirohito going rogue again, oopsie. Time for peace now, thank you for your attention to this matter.
I completely understand that feeling, and it was my initial reaction too, but honestly, I think they're kind of right.
If you're playing chess and the opponent's knight takes your rook, do you throw your queen at it on principle? Even though it's backed by a pawn? Or do you tighten up your own defenses and wait for the best opportunity to strike?
Don't get me wrong, AOC and Green are the energy we need here. I don't even think it's a bad play for them to make as much noise as possible about Trump's overreach, even if it is repeating the same behavior we've seen for decades. But if 126 Democrats voted against it, how many Republicans actually voted for it? What's the strategic cost of using the inertia that might flip a handful of Republicans on something that doesn't have the numbers yet?
What if we need them for a play down the line? What if we can flip more of them and actually get an impeachment instead of just proposing one on principle because we didn't already exhaust the idea?
I think the people should be pushing for impeachment, and I think Congress should impeach him. But I want that to actually happen. I don't just want it to be a sentiment that doesn't go anywhere.
I mean that's what they are doing in the middle east all the time. They literally attack each other endlessly but aren't technically at war most of the time.
OP is saying that there is a difference between actions that can be interpreted as an act of war and a formal declaration of war. It seems pedantic but I have to agree the difference is there. Iran has no interest declaring war on the US. Luckily there were enough adults making the decision that a retaliatory strike (with advance warning) was enough to call it a day.