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Troops and marines deeply troubled by LA deployment: ‘Morale is not great’
(www.theguardian.com)
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You say "easily," but I doubt it appears so easy, because disobeying the order first starts with you violating the UCMJ and paying for it. Only then can you fight and say hey, the order was unlawful. But you're doing that from military jail. It's an uphill battle and there's nothing easy about it.
I imagine the mindset is go, stand around with a shield, don't murk protestors, and try to just wait this shit out.
Plus, for the Marines, they were living in 29 Palms beforehand, so it's practically a vacation.
An unpaid vacation with little food.
They're Marines, I can tell you from experience, they are unfortunately used to it.
What if everyone does it en masse though?
And how do you propose this be coordinated?
Talk to each other? They're all posted to the same place. By 'everyone', I meant all the deployed troops.
Well that's kind of a given, I was looking for something more practical. Getting that many people on the same page about something that could easily have catastrophic consequences for all of them is not a trivial task.
That's beyond my knowledge of the intricacies of the US military. I'm just asking if it's possible based on the principal that there's strength in unity.
That's beyond my knowledge of the intricacies of the US military. I'm just asking if it's possible based on the principle that there's strength in unity.
It'd be awesome. But how do you get a whole unit openly discussing insubordination? I love the idea, but it's just not practical, and not in the short amount of time. The order came down within the last week? It was probably go go go since then.
It's not insubordination, it's their duty.
Yeah, I just think you've oversimplified it all. Like I said, I love the idea, but it's a huge ask, and it would require a lot of coordination over a period of time. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that sending Marines to the border, and sending them to protests in LA, is causing some kind of disenfranchisement amongst the enlisted, but a circle of dudes throwing rocks at a nalgene complaining about how this is bullshit is a far cry from an organized mutiny, essentially.
Pretty sure they were at Camp Pendleton.
From the article:
Huh, aight guess I missed that.
I just read this on another site. So who the fuck really knows what is going on?
The fuck? Best guess I have is that maybe they are grabbing guys from both Pendleton and Twentynine Palms, either that or maybe the convoy from Twentynine Palms is National Guard and they are moving shit.
2/7 is based on 29 Palms. They may have stopped at Pendleton on the way. 29 Palms is a Marine Corps base only.