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Trump border czar says National Guard will head to LA to fight anti-ICE protests
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2025
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I watched most of it on TikTok live since Friday. It began with a hit and run of a protestor by ICE.
I definitely didn’t see looters, but protestors were throwing rocks, cinder blocks, and M80s, and lighting cars on fire. That prompted ICE to don riot gear and deploy tear gas.
This is a bad idea. We don’t have the numbers to get baited into escalation. This will only embolden fascism.
Edit: Please share this.
Huh? You absolutely do. And remember that this started because ICE was rounding up people off the street, so "not getting baited into escalation" would require allowing that to happen, which goes against the kind of solidarity necessary to depose Trump's regime.
Our largest protest was 5M people nationwide. That’s smaller than the percent of communists that Hitler incarcerated in his first wave of detentions.
We are smarter than Trump. Let’s fucking act like it.
Yeah, we need more peaceful protesters to be attacked by cops and counter-protesters, then get blamed for the violence.
Or maybe the fascists will eventually just decide to stop, all on their own...
Or we could act on emotion and lose a portion of our resistance to a clear trap set by the dumbest president we’ve ever had.
Bro is already licking the fascist boots as it's just getting started.
How about you read a book about Nazi Germany and then we can talk? Fighting fascism with less than 2% of the population is how you get your resistance incarcerated.
We need more people. We lose people with violence.
It's okay lil bro, just give up. You clearly aren't cut out for anything.
I’m clearly more educated than you. It’s emotional reactionaries such as yourself that give the fascists justification to legally suspend our rights. Maybe spend less time at the gym and go find a library.
No you're right, the best way to deal with fascists is clearly to bend over backwards and give them what they want. Just give Poland to Hitler, it'll make him happy /s
I’m saying violent resistance is the reason we’re about to lose rights and people to incarceration. Protestors will be too afraid to protest for their safety. I’m saying violence is not productive. Why is that hard to comprehend?
Because you're losing those rights regardless of whether or not you fight. You can't placate fascists. If you give them an inch they will take the whole mile, so may as well fight for the whole mile.
So why not just give in by losing our resistance? Your logic is horribly flawed.
So it's better to have no resistance than to let the fascists know we don't love them.
Who said that? I’m advocating for peaceful resistance. We need more numbers. Violence only reduces them.
So nonresistance.
And this will be the excuse for doing nothing until we're all in camps.
You need to stop using German history as a reference if you aren’t actually familiar with it.
The communists set the Reichstag fire in 1933. That emboldened Hitler to attack them as a class and deport them to Poland. There was a larger percentage of communists in Germany than our largest peaceful protest. You’re literally suggesting walking head first into repeating history.
I didn't mention Germany.
So, how do you intend to increase the numbers of people willing to oppose fascism before we're all in camps?