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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

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[–] who@feddit.org 179 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 101 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I’ve noticed this a ton over the last two or three months. Lemmy has become so much more negative than it was when I joined. It’s a real bummer. I can’t even imagine trying to be a mod or an admin.

[–] Sandbar_Trekker@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Based on the uptick in "I was banned from Reddit" posts, I'm thinking that we're getting a lot more users that were banned for good reason from Reddit. Looks like Reddit has also stepped up their game in their ability to keep those users off their platform.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i visited the sub for shadowbans occasionally, i noticed alot of them were getting banned for no reason at all, so theres that to keep in mind, as long with the purges.

and then you got the ones that are the problematic ones: they are banning me because of my opinion, you know kinda which way they lean on the spectrum.

reddit also bans very indiscriminately as of the last few months, to cull thier numbers its intentional.

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

Oh that’s an interesting thought that I hadn’t had.

Hopefully we aren’t becoming the containment board.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

agreed. the honeymoon period post-reddit-exodus was nice but this place is just like everywhere else now.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 88 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's still quite a lot nicer than reddit, even if it has its share of unpleasant characters. Whenever I read a reddit thread I am glad Lemmy exists.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 46 points 2 days ago

It's the normal amount of suck that is inherent and not the turbo suck that corpos intentionally cultivate for profit

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And at least the average Lemmy user isn't a complete fucking idiot.

I remember the early days of reddit, when we would make fun of the kids over at /r/SummerReddit every June. But then those kids grew up, took over the website, and now /r/SummerReddit is all of reddit.

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And at least the average Lemmy user isn't a complete fucking idiot.

Please, allow myself to introduce... Myself.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Hi. My name is TachyonTele.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I remember discovering Digg first and then reddit, and noticing how on reddit, back when it was Digg's less glamorous knockoff, people didn't comment unless they really knew what they were talking about. It was a pretty sensible and erudite site for a while. Then Digg nuked itself and reddit was forever changed.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I was there! Started on Digg after Kevin Rose mentioned it on The Screensavers (TechTV), joined reddit shorty after.

2006-2009 was peak reddit. Then after digg's suicide, it was the beginning of the end.

And now he's is trying to bring it back. I wish him the best of luck. Don't fuck it up this time, Kevin.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Fascinating how quickly you can forget the actual abuse when thinking about an abusive ex.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

you wouldnt get randomly banned here as you would on reddit, which i found out from the shadowban sub, even looking at your account wrong can trigger a ban.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

coincides with the ban purges of reddit of recently.

[–] brot@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My instance constantly gets attacked for being a "pro genocide nazi instance". Which totally is not the case, but admins and mods are trying to ensure that no content is posted that is illegal where they live. And local rules here are also quite sensible.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How often do those laws actually get enforced, especially for small online communities who are against genocide? Like I understand not wanting to run afoul of the law, even if the law is immoral, but is it a realistic risk?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Difficult question. I think it's realistic. Hate speech laws are enforced against individuals on a regular basis. If a German instance tolerated illegal content, then I expect the instance would sooner or later be involved in a prosecution. The prosecution would be against the user, though. The instance would only have to provide data to police. I'm not sure at what point the instance owners themselves would be found to violate these laws.

Apart from that, the instance is required to remove illegal content per the DSA. I think it's realistic to expect that a prosecution would lead to a closer look at the instance.

[–] brot@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

First of all, telling admins that they should break the law and face legal risks and fines because you want it is exactly what the Lemm.ee admins are talking about. Burning out, problems with replacements and so on. And second: We are talking about content in the style of "Israel has to die, kill all the jews" and yes, people get prosecuted for that. And you really do not want stuff like that on your instance, even if your country allows it

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I think that is just an effect of growing, or at least not shrinking and sticking around. There is ni point in spaming somewhere where there are no active users.

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I don't know if it was that short term, but I've always been rather concerned with the sharp degree of hostility and even outright hatred that seems to be tacitly accepted or encouraged.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean if you're someone new and then inundated with terrible news every day because you're still getting the hang of moderating your feed by yourself, you're bound to carry negative attitude everywhere else.

reddit can, have been, and will continue to be angry right leaning, and here it's the opposite. I get it, there are matters worth being angry about. but surrounding yourself with it just makes it pointless

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

probably with the sudden increase of lemmy.ee users from reddit who were part of the ban waves since the beginning of the year, many of them are rightfully banned for spreading pro-israeli, russian backed and right wing propaganda. along with innocent users that were unceremoniously banned.

[–] who@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I haven't been following Reddit events since I left a couple years ago, but if there have been recent ban waves for bad behaviour, it wouldn't surprise me to see corresponding upticks in it here.

I wish more of us spoke up against rudeness, confidently incorrect ignorance, combativeness, tribalism, brigading, and other such stuff when it rears its head here. If all of us participated in moderation, I suspect it would be more effective and make our mods' lives easier.

[–] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

People were being banned for up voting posts that got removed.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

besides the rightful bans, thier purges were quite different this time around, many of them were banned for no REASON at all.