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The Catholic Church has issued a warning to its clergy in Washington state: Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-excommunicate-priests-following-new-us-state-law-2069039

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[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue, and this isn't easy, the church can continue to use the rule. After all, it is from "God". Who are we to define the rules. But any priest (and above) that doesn't report it, is an awful human being. Stick to dogma, but accept the consequences of being a human. If a child is abused and you can stop it, pay the price to make it stop. Child is safe; you go to hell - fair deal. No mater what, someone is going to suffer. Make the "saintly" call. And make it known!

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'd argue, and this isn't easy

Then don't? There is absolutely no reason society needs to obey objectively evil arcane rules because some dude who has absolutely no say in how we run society says we should.

I still have absolutely no idea why people would jump in to defend the churches right to keep CHILD ABUSE secret. It seems like you would either be afraid of getting discovered, or you have so little faith in your church that you're afraid they're going to get discovered.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not afraid nor am I a member of any church. I am firm in my stance that there is no god. Small or little G. If you read my post again you will see that my point is, even if you are going to go to hell, you are obliged to report abuse. Again, report it. Fucking report it. If the cost is your eternal salvation, you will fucking report it.

They is my point. There is a cost to everything. No matter what you believe, be ready to pay it.

Next time, please read what someone says and not what you want to believe they say. The world would be much better that way.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue, and this isn't easy, the church can continue to use the rule.

The rule of shielding child molesters. I read exactly what you said and quoted it. Now I'm going to enjoy my weekend and not give you any more time to defend child molesters, because what the fuck.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Are you serious? I'm not defending them. I'm saying, if you have a religion based on stone-age ideas that are not allowed to change (because it's a religion and God doesn't really exist so he can't talk to you) there is no coherent way you can change the rules. It's not like a sports group. Only "God" can change the rules. Don't change the rules. BREAK them. Ignore "God".

I'm not sure why you are so insistent that I defend child molesters. You accused me of belonging to a church. I get the feeling this might be more true of you. Again, I believe in no god. I belong to no church. I defend no molester (child or otherwise).

I hope you have a nice weekend. I hold no animosity towards you. We are on the same side. We only disagree about semantics and human behaviour. Don't be angry.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org -2 points 9 months ago

or you have so little faith in your church

I will tell you a secret: Not everything in the world is about tribes or team sports. I personally deem any organized religion as an abomination.

But when a "remember that the confession's confidentiality is absolute, has been exactly like this for nearly a millenium and you are beholden to god's/church laws first an foremost" (so the same unchanged statement as always) is reframed as the church somehow explicitly going out of its way to protect child abuse specifically people should actually notice that they are being manipulated.