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Well, it's certainly a controversial opinion. Largely because everyone spouting it is just showing exactly how little they know about the effects of hrt.
And, when you add in the ever asinine "the truth is in the middle" it underscores that because the truth is in the data. This isn't an opinion about blue being prettier than red. It's an "opinion" about the very understood and easy to research effects of hormones on the human body.
And I'll say this part again because no jackass that brays this malarkey ever ponies up, where are all the records broken by trans women? Because there's places they compete with cis women, and there's no giant wave of new records being set.
Do people really not even think to look and see if there's been any fucking changes in sports where trans women compete? Are people that fucking stupid? Oh, wait, what am I saying, of course they are
You do not know jack shit about this subject and need to shut your fucking piehole, you jackass. Fuck, people are so fucking dumb
Studies show that biological mens hands are 20%+ bigger than biological women.
HRT isn't going to make your hands 20% smaller, bigger hands give you an advantage in many sports eg. swimming.
Are you really going to parrot Joe fucking Rogan's mindless bullshit?
Since you did, even the most successful trans elan woman swimmer not only dropped her times significantly, but lost far more often than she won. And that's the best trans swimmer out there.
Again, you failed to do anything other than jerk yourself off to your fetish of imagining things about trans women. Because you definitely didn't go and look up a fucking thing you know how I know that? I went and reverified my previous searches on the matter the last time some brain dead fuckstick ran this bullshit trying to pretend they weren't just a worm brained bigot.
And guess what, I looked up the most successful trans women in mma as well, and even she didn't have some kind of flawless record, despite the man hands. She did have a damn solid record indeed, but not perfect, and it got cut short, so there's that.
Boxing? No trans champions.
Running? No world records held by trans women that I could find, and while it's a hard field to look up because there's so many different events, there are records and they are well documented.
Fuck, there was a weightlifter, the single sport where you could realistically claim that any bone changes made while a man would be most likely to vary carry over. That dude went from top rankings as a man, to a lady in the middle rankings. And that's fucking weightlifting, where muscle attachment points matter more than anything except maybe the hammer throw, or sumo.
But here's the real fucking kicker to all this. I tell you exactly what the flaw in your little poorly disguised bigotry, and you couldn't be bothered to do anything other than "big hands".
You are fucking pimple on the asshole of humanity. You're a fucking dingleberry hanging off of an ass pimple.
You could have at least put in some fucking effort, but noooooo, that would require a functional brain.
GTFO you half witted, vile little piece of shit. Come at me with your man hands bullshit. Waste of fucking oxygen.
Jeeeze relax, Read the about of the sub.
This is not a safe space nor an echo-chamber, you come here to discuss in a civilized way, no flaming, no insults!
I'm trying to have a conversation, after all the insults I'm done talking to you.
No, you are not trying to have a conversation, you're spreading the same bullshit bigotry that's all over the place already. You can't hide behind "just asking questions", or "just having a discussion" when you're spewing the same bullshit that has gotten people killed and beaten.
Look at the sub you are in.
I feel the way I do, and I am open to having my mind changed. Getting angry at me and immediately using insults like
shut your fucking pieholeisn't going to change my mind, and is against the rules of this sub.I would like to have my mind changed, if I'm not allowed to have a conversation about how I feel, how is that going to happen?
Horse shit.
If you wanted your mind changed, you wouldn't have come back with the man hands drek. You'd have done it exactly as I suggested and looked up the world records of a bunch of sports and seen the absolute tiny amount of them that are held by trans athletes, and the fact that with only unusual outliers, none of those so far outstripped previous records as to be significant in comparison to the standard increase in records over time as the science behind sports medicine optimizes training.
But, no, you come back with man hands like some lobotomized parrot that's been forced to watch Rogan.
If you're also going to try and hide your bullshit behind community rules, and it is community, not sub because this ain't fucking reddit, then you aren't just a bigot you're a fucking wimp.
Nah, fuck right off with your fake vomit of bigotry. It's transparent, it's obvious, and at this point absurd that you keep trying to pretend that this is anything other than dog whistling jackassery.
Insults again, I'm done talking to you. I want a civil discussion.
JAQing off is not a discussion. You have your opinion. It's based off of anecdotes, non-existent or irrelevant statistics, and vibes. If you want an actual discussion about excluding a whole group of people from competing in sports, stop spouting off shit like how big men's hands are like you're determining if trans women are Aryan enough to compete with their peers.
I feel like you're a stone's throw away from saying something like "black runners are better because of genes so we should segregate them".
No you dont buddy. We all see it.
Your entire post is uncivilized, and you can't hide behind pretending otherwise