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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not what every snap user wants. It's just that garbage products are calorie dense and need little to no preparation, and those things absolutely matter when working several jobs or being homeless and convincing someone to let you use their address because a permanent address is necessary.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (6 children)

More calories per dollar for things like rice beans pasta. It's a bit more complicated than that.

Convenience is king when you are constantly burned out and sleep deprived and "just need something good enough and easy"

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Fucking hell, have you ever tried to live on rice and beans? You need half a dozen spices and salt just to make it taste like not sadness, plus prep time, prep space, prep bowls and pots, and then you need to wash everything. Compared with a frozen meal that cooks in the microwave and a disposable tray for serving, there's really no contest. A "rice and beans" lifestyle requires a stay-at-home partner who soaks beans and washes dishes.

It's a great frugal tip to stretch your grocery dollars, but if you're poor, it's not a moral failing to go with a cheap frozen meal.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I wish more people understood this. Beans are so good, but only if you can devote hours to them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's just one of the myriad of recommendations people make because they don't understand the problem. People think that the simple trick that worked for them would solve similar problems for everyone. Worse, they get angry when their advice is met with resistance. It's like Napoleon feeding the alpacas.

[–] dephyre@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I know this outside of the scope of the discussion, but you can cook dried beans in a instant pot in about an hour.

Obviously that's still going to be a struggle for anyone where time/space/equipment are a huge factor. But it's a big difference from letting them soak overnight.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Insta pot can help, but I don’t feel it add much value in the overall cook. Sautéing, caramelizing, deglazing, etc. takes time that no home-use kitchen gadget is going to help with. Soaking beans overnight is not the problem, as much as actual time it takes to make a meal. Planning, purchasing ingredients, prepping, cooking, cleaning…insta-pot is not worth the hype iykyk

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can make a relatively tasty rice with beans with canned beans and bit of salt in 10 minutes - if you are feeling fancy adding parsley will even move it to tasting good. I'm starting to suspect all the corn syrup is damaging american's taste buds beyond repair.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Two things, canned beans and instant rice cost more than dry bulk rice and beans. And your recipe for "salt and parsley instant rice and canned beans" sounds like it's going to taste like sadness.

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago

This guy frugals.

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but if you’re poor, it’s not a moral failing to go with a cheap frozen meal.

Agreed. HOWEVER, we should be educating people and coming up with new ways to eat cheap, quick, and healthy.

Use your ovens, folks. Food like bacon and bratwurst turn out great in the oven and you don't have to babysit them, either.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, the solution is to cook in a group. It's just that nobody does it.

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Man, that would make things so much easier and save a lot of time.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah. Go do it!

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

1 can beans. 1 can tomatos. pour in bowl. microwave. add garlic powder, chili powder, pepper, cayenne. Eat.

I have eaten this for months before. It is cheap, convenient, healthy, and tasty.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I lived on easy hamburger helper. Everything is in the package, just cook some ground beef in a pan and mix the rest of the stuff in.

It's not that hard, guys. You don't need to eat candy to survive

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That shit is full of sodium and really bad for you. Once they target sugar, what do you suppose is next?

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sodium is at least required for you to live. You can have 0 grams of sugar and be perfectly healthy

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but if you eat a balanced diet of fresh food, you'll get all the sodium you need. Nobody needs the sodium in an instant meal.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Not everyone eats balanced meals. Guess what is in a balanced meal? Sodium. You need it.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

sodium isn't bad for you unless you are eating ungodly amounts. Typically if you get too much of an electrolyte, you just piss it out.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you really shouldnt be giving advice when your comments include, not paying for peoples food because you think they are only buying sugary foods. yet your here eating junk food.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'm saying don't pay for the sugary food, pay for the slightly more healthy food

Yeah, I'd say the bigger issue is low income people not having time to cook, and/or not having the ability to get to a decent grocery store.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 10 months ago

You might also be living on the street or in a car and not have the means to actually cook.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 10 months ago

I'd also like to see how he addresses food deserts. I already saw an article suggesting 18-65 are going to lose benefits.

[–] TheWeirdestCunt@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You're assuming that people have the time and space to prep rice, beans and pasta. Not everyone does.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think if we remove the cooked food restriction it would make sense

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh, can you get a bag of equivalent volume of apples for the same as a bottle of coca cola?

Same amount of sugar, one is considerably healthier.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

IDC about soda, although it's probably less harmful than water in certain areas.

Apples. Food deserts. I've never seen an apple at any of the dollar stores.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago

And consuming how expensive cars are I don't want to hear people say "food deserts doesn't exist because you can drive 10 Miles"

[–] iopq@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Soda is made from municipal water. If the tap water has an issue, so will the soda

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Afaik you can't buy tap soda on benefits, only sealed containers.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The sealed containers are made from tap water too

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 10 months ago

Not necessarily from the same regions.