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[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Whoever coined the phrase "it's not my job to educate you" is top of my rogues gallery. If you want democracy to succeed, it is literally your job to educate everyone you can about the things you are passionate about and the changes you wish to see. I get where it came from, I understand the feeling, but it's the worst possible phrase in the context of trying to make a political change.

[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like a lot of progressive vocabulary words get used outside the contexts where they apply.

"It's not my job to educate you" is a fair and valid thing to say when someone demands you defend the validity of your identity while you're just trying to live your life. It's unreasonable to expect every trans person to explain the history and complexity of gender to every chud who gives them shit.

It is, however, the opposite of activism and super unhelpful for an activist to say while ostensibly trying to build a movement.

Similarly, "mansplaining" is not a blanket term for any man explaining anything, listening to a friend vent is not "emotional labor", and participating in cultures other than the one you grew up in is not "cultural appropriation". All real terms that point at real problems, all sometimes used outside the contexts in which they are helpful.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gaslighting is another often misused term. It's not just a blanket term for lying, it is a specific type of lie.

[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“It’s not my job to educate you” led to Prager University

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

If you don't, someone else will.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

It really didn't. Maybe 10 people said it because they were being harassed by concern trolls, while the rest of us continued to engage in conversation with people who seemed like they might genuinely be confused.

Like literally just do a web search for your question and you will be on better footing when you ask it.

Like I felt offended the first time I heard "my culture is not a costume" but I actually did some reading / thinking before I started bothering people with questions like what??? or even banditos?? or what about mummies?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I mean I can understand not everyone wants to be an educator, especially of more ignorant people but when people say this I do wonder why they are even talking. I usually speak to people because I am interested in learning from them or because they’re interested in learning from me. This is the purpose of human communication. If you aren’t interested then the obvious solution is to stay silent.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I can understand not everyone wants to be an educator, especially of more ignorant people but when people say this I do wonder why they are even talking.

Exactly. If you're not willing to try and educate someone you disagree with, insulting them is no substitute (in fact it's pretty much the worst course of action re the presumed desired result), just keep quiet, or alternatively go talk to others who already agree with you so you can stroke each other's egos, lol.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When out distributing political flyers people will often come up to me pretending to want a conversation and learn something about my/our points, but just talk over me all the time. Their purpose is not to listen, or to learn, or to question, but just to feel like they matter.

Had a guy recently tell me about how he is a mechanic and that he did his own study where he found out that combustion engines do not, in fact, let out any CO2. He started it all with "give me 3 reasons to vote for you" to put me on the spot, then immediately was like "ok, I have 3 not to do it."

There is no conversation with people like that, I've tried it often. Now I just wish them a nice day and go away as it's not my job to waste time trying go educate them talking against an idiot wall.

[–] araneae@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I first started seeing this on reddit (who knows where it actually came from though) which I believe schools its users to want to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING for attention and engagement. I agreed with or rather understood its meaning at one point but this phrase along with has "let me Google that for you" has fostered an abysmal internet culture. I think a much more servicable and sympathetic version of what this phrase was once trying to say, when said in good faith, should be "its not my responsibility to engage with this post right now", which isn't spoken aloud but is applicable to everyone online, and which I find myself thinking more and more when a comment makes me groan. The problem is how driven we all are to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING for attention amd engagement. I think it was a valuable realization at the time that felt so good to fire off uncritically on Twitter that people really hurt themselves, others, and the internet's culture when they did.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

let me Google that for you

has a place. there are people out there making absolutely 0 effort & wasting everyone's time. there are pointless posts of questions that literally could have been googled to get a quicker, comprehensive answer. enabling them to continue that way isn't helping them or anyone.

people got to at least be willing to put in basic effort or it's worthless.