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Is it ethical for a parent to raise their children in their faith tradition? (slrpnk.net)

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For many religious people, raising their children in their faith is an important part of their religious practice. They might see getting their kids into heaven as one of the most important things they can do as parent. And certainly, adults should have the right to practice their religion freely, but children are impressionable and unlikely to realize that they are being indoctrinated into one religion out of the thousands that humans practice.

And many faith traditions have beliefs that are at odds with science or support bigoted worldviews. For example, a queer person being raised in the Catholic Church would be taught that they are inherently disordered and would likely be discouraged from being involved in LGBTQ support groups.

Where do you think the line is between practicing your own religion faithfully and unethically forcing your beliefs on someone else?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem with "faith" is its literal meaning: belief that is not based on evidence.

A society based on faith can only work is everybody has the same faith (think: Ancient Rome, theocracies, communist countries). The only reason modern Western democracies work is precisely that they are not based on faith but rather on evidence, on reason, on truth-seeking. This is the amazing and historically anomalous heritage of the enlightenment and it's looking more fragile by the day.

Teaching kids fairytales and calling it truth is the reason religion exists. It's the reason it's so hard for adults to leave the religions they assimilated as children. And in a free society where we have to find a way to live together, it's profoundly dangerous.

So my answer is: no.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

think: Ancient Rome,

As far as I know, Ancient Rome (pre-christian) welcomed many and very different faiths.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's fair. Although I believe the Jewish minority was the only one that seriously dissented from the prevailing polytheism.

My main point is that secular liberalism is the only political system that has been shown to protect individual freedom and rights - i.e. without the need for a shared supernatural mythology or an iron fist. And this system relies on a shared commitment to evidence, reason, facts.

In this context, to inculcate irrational beliefs in children seems to me to be like playing with fire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Although I believe the Jewish minority was the only one that seriously dissented from the prevailing polytheism.

Edit: There were the Christians, a little later on. But I wouldn't know that all religions would be polytheist back then except Jews. I'm really not an expert.

In this context, to inculcate irrational beliefs in children seems to me to be like playing with fire.

It sure can be. But, talking irrational beliefs, wouldn't you agree that telling a child they're a unique and amazing person and that all they do is perfect and amazing too, that they should not have to get bad grades at school because it's infuriating, that they should not have to do their homework because it's tiresome, that they should be allowed to do whatever they fancy the moment they fancy doing it, is also like playing with fire? Still, despite it containing not a single mention of god, religion or spiritual beliefs it's something hordes of parents are telling their own kids every single day.

I do sincerely wonder what will do more harm to those kids but, once again, I'm not pro religion nor am I against it. I'm only pro taking nothing for granted—beginning with our very own certainties if they can't be demonstrated ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All fair points. There are definitely multiple ways of playing with fire.

I saw that article about illiterate college kids too. Worrying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I saw that article about illiterate college kids too. Worrying.

Indeed. We have the same issues here in France, btw. It's an absolute failure of our educational system (and of too many parents persisting in wanting that failure to be used) that will cost dear to all those kids, and then will cost to the society as a whole: that's our future 'elite' that's being uneducated.