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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How were they done before money?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Could start with reading the wikipedia about this book and go from there, maybe check out the book and look up the archaeological and anthropological data yourself, but the gist is summarized there.

"Graeber lays out the historical development of the idea of debt, starting from the first recorded debt systems in the Sumer civilization around 3500 BCE. In this early form of borrowing and lending, farmers would often become so mired in debt that their children would be forced into debt peonage. Because of the social tension that came with this enslavement of large parts of the population, kings periodically canceled all debts. In ancient Israel, the resulting amnesty came to be known as the Law of Jubilee.

Graeber argues that debt and credit historically appeared before money, which itself appeared before barter. This is the opposite of the narrative given in standard economics texts dating back to Adam Smith. To support this, he cites numerous historical, ethnographic and archaeological studies. He also claims that the standard economics texts cite no evidence for suggesting that barter came before money, credit and debt, and he has seen no credible reports suggesting such.

The primary theme of the book is that excessive popular indebtedness has sometimes led to unrest, insurrection, and revolt. He argues that credit systems originally developed as means of account long before the advent of coinage, which appeared around 600 BCE. Credit can still be seen operating in non-monetary economies. Barter, on the other hand, seems primarily to have been used for limited exchanges between different societies that had infrequent contact and often were in a context of ritualized warfare.

Graeber suggests that economic life originally related to social currencies. These were closely related to routine non-market interactions within a community. This created an "everyday communism" based on mutual expectations and responsibilities among individuals. This type of economy is contrasted with exchange based on formal equality and reciprocity (but not necessarily leading to market relations) and hierarchy. The hierarchies in turn tended to institutionalize inequalities in customs and castes. "

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This make sense. It is so easy and natural to get "indebted" to someone from your social circle. You start recording all of that + some trade in that circle, and voilà money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

and voilà ~~money~~ credit system.

If you're talking about money as a "quantitive measurement of debt" then that's really just a credit system or form of social currency, and was created specifically for debt forgiveness and debt cancellation, with the strict purpose of not holding debt over other people through violence or slavery.

If you're talking about money in terms of coin, it's strict purpose is to pay armies, mercenaries, or bandits and to be used for colonial purposes of unfairly taxing conquered lands to pay back the costs of being conquered. "We could've killed you, but we didn't, and it was rather expensive to conquer you so we expect compensation. Here's 500 pieces of silver with some dudes head printed on it, you owe us 100 pieces of this silver every year, forever, or we'll kill/starve/enslave you all. Join our market or die." Thus posessing said silver becomes a mafia-style protection racket of debt pionage whereby communities are forced to adopt the currency or face the threat of violence.

Money as a social contract vs what money is today are two very different things.