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Should I Ditch My Gas Appliances? They’re a big source of greenhouse gases. Here’s what to think about if you’re considering switching to electric. (www.nytimes.com)
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The financial part of the article is why we're seeing extensive adoption in rural locations, where people depend on propane, but not in urban areas which are hooked up to the methane distribution system. Getting universal adoption is going to require making electricity cheap and providing support for the appliance switch itself.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I imagine they would shut it off from the street, and your lines wouldn't have any gas in them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Right, but the line that they had to lay in plus the digging was on their dime. Would they just be ok to leave that infrastructure there knowing nobody is paying for it? Obviously I should just go and ask, but I'm just thinking out loud. I guess they can bet on the homeowner not living there forever and hope the next resident will want to re-instate gas.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

well that infrastructure is a sunk cost, and maintaining it is gonna be a huge problem as fewer and fewer users have gas in the coming decades https://heatmap.news/ideas/la-fires-natural-gas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In my state, the gas company charges the property owner installation fees on installing a gas line to the property.

So they're not really out much if a homeowner changes their mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's a good point. I live in a new neighborhood, so the builder likely paid the gas company to set up all the gas lines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, and while the gas company probably doesn't charge full price for the installation, they make their money back pretty quickly, so it all comes out in the wash anyways.