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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What software did they have to offer that was better than the competition? The collision avoidance was always worse than the rest. It was all fully of remote access surveillance features and repairs were impossible due to DRM locks. There was also the whole thing with the auto disengaging of the autopilot milliseconds before any unavoidable crash so they could better fake their safety stats.

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They have that thing where you can say open butthole and the charge port opens.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And I feel really good betting that it was musk who forced them to implement that feature

[–] hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago

I recently got stuck with a Tesla rental on a trip and discovered that while it doesn't have handy stuff like Android Auto, it does have a customizable fart feature. I knew Musk was a jackass, but that (and now this) really drives it home.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Same with fart mode, probably.

[–] PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Tesla understood the "computer on wheels" approach to vehicle engineering far before most, if not all, traditional manufacturers. Their EV route planner in combination with their Supercharger network is still mostly unbeaten and was long its biggest selling point. The software is far from perfect, but it's mostly polished, mature and has been a focus from the beginning.

All your criticism is perfectly valid, though. But most of them aren't owed to lack of software quality but merely bad management decisions. I'd even argue that the autopilot is doing well with the limited sensors its been given - a restriction its unlikely to overcome with software alone, regardless of Elon's lies.

I would never buy a Tesla, but most manufacturers struggle more when it comes to delivering software people actually want to use.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Currently have a Volkswagen and in comparison to the Tesla app/car infotainment:

  • VW infotainment is laggy
  • VW can't remote lock/unlock
  • VW doesn't have the ability to use the car cameras as dashcam
  • VW app can't connect to my car half the time because the 12v battery is too low
  • VW car lock/unlock when you approach/leave doesn't work half the time because either the 12v battery is empty ( because it's been parked for 2 days ) or because the car is in some kind of deep sleep.
  • sometimes the Spotify app just doesn't work and I'd need to reboot the car.
  • android car tries to steal control all the fucking time. Can't use android car and use the Spotify app in the car. Nope, need to use the Spotify through android car. They want 15€ a month, but 90% of the features just don't work once you hook the car up to android car.

I asked about it in a dealership ( the 12v battery ) and they say it's probably not even related to the 12v battery. The app can't connect to the car sometimes when it's attached to a fucking charging point.

I'm not unhappy with the VW car, but the software compared to the Tesla is wildly underwhelming in that regard. Tesla I could just walk up to the car, get in, and leave. With the VW the car only starts waking up the moment you get in the car. You can stand next to it talking for 20mins and once you get in the infotainment still needs to fucking boot. It doesn't take long, but it is annoying ( to me ).

Build quality, comfort, ... the VW is miles ahead of tesla. But software-wise I feel they are still lagging behind. It also feels like the compute power in their id5 ( based on a rental I drove around for 3 months ) is some cheap tablet you get for free with a subscription to a magazine which is very disappointing considering the car costs 50k.

I agree that the Tesla software feels pretty mature and stable ( infotainment/app ).

Note: wouldn't buy a Tesla either or trade in this VW for one.

Source: drove around a Tesla company car for a while

I have no experience with other brands besides the VW and the Tesla.