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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The bottom-left one for Feminists doesn’t fit. The others are things that were created by their own group, for example, the KKK was created by Christians. That Feminist meme, on the other hand, wasn’t created by feminists but by someone else to mock them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

I vote OP take the meme down and repost it with Shiela Jeffries or Camille Paglia replacing the feminist..

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And the "keep calm and hate god" was clearly created by a theist, not an atheist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Should've been a picture of Stalin. And the feminist one should've been a picture of J. K. Rowling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

That would have been better yes

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good point. Why would an atheist hate something which doesn't exist. The whole meme is bad.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Many atheists "hate god" as in hate the idea of a god. I can see atheist making that as a meme and I know some edgy atheists post that kind of shit all the time, which tbh is corny as hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The word god is used as a stand-in for religion. A synecdoche.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I could see it being from an antitheist if it was more along of the lines of "fuck all gods" or something along those lines. That's operating under the assumption that all antitheists are atheists, which may not be true.

... Someone who is a theistic antitheist sounds like an interesting person.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

allow me to introduce you to misotheism. my favourite take is that of famed mathematician Paul Erdös, who referred to god as the 'SF', which stood for 'supreme fascist', who he said horded all the best mathematical proofs for himself.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The number of assholes calling themselves feminists vastly outnumber the actual feminists. They have lost control of the word.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Most feminists just don’t call themselves feminists anymore because doing so makes you very likely to get harassed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I prefer to call myself egalitarian

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well they’re not really the same thing, feminism is a social movement with the goal with furthering equality. Egalitarianism just means you think everyone’s equal, doesn’t mean you actually care enough to make that a reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I disagree and as far as I can tell, so does Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TBF I think it'd be risky to use legit examples for that panel

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My thought exactly. Most of the "feminists" who do fit that stereotype ended up becoming Feminist Appropriating Reactionary Transphobes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Ahahahahahaa FARTs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Or the "all men are rapists" crowd, one of the two tbh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Every woman I know has experienced at least sexual harrasment. Most have experienced SA or rape. Even if a man hasn't done it, he will probably stick by his shitty mates who do or will still stay friends with them because awkwardness and bravery is harder for them than silent compliance.

If its "not all men" then it is certainly all women.

I'm picking that bear over you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm sorry you have a hard life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't say I've ever come across one of those

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

There is a lot of overlap, TERFs usually have a problem with trans women because they deeply mistrust men. The "R" is there for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I have to say personally I surround myself with wonderful and kind men so it makes sense that I've never met someone in real life who so adamantly hates all of them.

I understand being wary of men for statistical reasons, for example I won't get into a situation where I'm in a room alone with a man I don't know well, but that's not to say I assume every man I meet is a rapist.

Hell, hot take incoming (this one is controversial): we can even acknowledge that a lot of men have raped people without knowing it for many years because of the way they were socialized with media that encouraged pestering for sexual attention. A lot of men I know are guilty of this but I think it's important that that can be redeemable if they recognize that it happened and have since changed their behaviour. This seems to be an extremely common experience and I wouldn't go as far as to call them rapists because that was not their intention and they are usually horrified when they realize it.

Sorry for the tangent, I do feel like this isn't talked about enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

we can even acknowledge that a lot of men have raped people without knowing it

I wouldn’t go as far as to call them rapists because that was not their intention

I see what you're getting at, but I really wouldn't use that word in any context where there might have been, for example, any power dynamic or some form of coercion. I believe that keeping it reserved for situations where violence or significant coercion are involved is better for everyone, especially the victims.

Doesn't mean using mild coercion/emotional blackmail/pestering/shaming/... is okay behaviour, not at all, it's just that saying no/leaving won't usually do much beyond change the relationship between the people involved. Talking about that is fine, good and needed, using "rape" to describe it will probably shut down any conversation before it can even begin, though.

I'd also argue that that sort of behaviour is something both men and women engage in, maybe in different ways but, well, the expectation on men is to always be sexually available, so it sometimes becomes an issue when they are not. Mutual respect and understanding really are the most important things in a relationship, both participants are fully realized human beings, not just "the girlfriend/wife" or "the boyfriend/husband". But people seem to forget that sometimes and I don't know what can be done about that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I completely agree, while rape is technically what happens in those situations, the word seems to hold more weight than the action (in those specific situations where it's more a result of clumsy socialization and lack of communication).

Like, by the very semantic technical definition, I've been raped, but since there was no power dynamic and since there was no malicious intent, I do not call it that because it doesn't feel accurate. I am not traumatized.

I'd say the best way to move forward is to socialize children with the understanding of what consent is, and raising them with the autonomy we expect for ourselves. Basically if we want children to grow up with empathy and respecting the autonomy of others, we need to treat them with empathy and respect their autonomy.

Basically how can we expect people to follow rules like "get consent before doing anything" if we don't have a consensus on what "consent" is?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Good point, pic of JK Rowling would fit there I'd say.