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There’s way more nuance to that, even off the top. Men are absolutely allowed to have a voice as seen by all the male dominated spaces. The big issue is whether you are punching up or down. It’s why conservative comedians are such failures, all their jokes target marginalized people with crass stereotypes and unfounded nonsense, and they leave the stage to continue acting on those ideas.
In those too few spaces where men are actually held accountable then yes, they are seen as aggressive. Part of the issue is that the male idea of “being ignored” these days is completely off-balance and you can see that so starkly in the outrage whenever we aren’t the center of attention in media. And then we get told this and our first reactions are to get extremely defensive, followed by many continuing to be defensive.
Men are not the victims here; we started it and are unwilling or highly resistant to sharing the space we got too comfortable in while women and minorities were left outside.
It sounds very much like mostly live in circles where people would be accepting of who you are, and those people would also be the ones who would make space for and encourage women and minorities.
The comic is referring to how women too often get called “dramatic”, “too sensitive”, or “hysterical” when they are justifiably mad at something. As far as the powerful people in the western world are concerned women are aggressive and disruptive and men are simply standing their ground. The idea is that sure they’re weak and whatever…until they argue with a man in power or not in power but still very insecure about it. Makes it easy to dismiss them when they’re quiet and easy to dismiss them when they’re loud.
The damsel in distress is an old stereotype that helps reinforce that from a time when women weren’t allowed to be anything else(and honestly one can argue that we’re still in that time). Like how trans and/or gay people “didn’t exist” but actually it was more because people in power didn’t want them to be remembered. Of course women weren’t speaking up all that much, even today so many stay quiet when abused because they fear retribution, so obviously something must be wrong with them if they break from the stereotype and actually get mad. Male violence is practically celebrated, though, so it takes so much more for society to say they’ve crossed into aggression.
So, again, you’re talking about a highly specific community that is way more likely to be filled with young progressives who are still getting through the edgy teen phase but are also far more likely to come from privileged, white backgrounds. I have never argued that there are places which go opposite to the comic but that’s not how society at large behaves.
How well did you pass in Florida? There’s also the sad fact that people not accepting you will see you as a man and their monkey brains will run with that, especially if you’re bigger and/or have a deeper voice.
I don’t really know how you’ve just somehow missed the entire, long history of oppression and dismissal of women by whatever excuse fits in the moment.
You are a big fat fucking liar who is trying to deny women a voice because a black MAN might get overshadowed. Fuck off and die misogynist.