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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

state charges too, Trump cant pardon those. Maybe thats the answer for republican law breakers, move all the federal laws to the state books. (Or maybe thats a bad idea, I'm not a lawyer)

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a great idea. Moving everything from the Feds to the states is a core conservative value, so they should welcome this.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol nah. Their only core value is hypocrisy, so they absolutely would not welcome it.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a shame, too. If "states rights" ended up being the fatal flaw in a neo-Confederate coup attempt, that would be just desserts.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They care about this as much as they care about proper handling of classified information

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll care plenty when their representatives start getting tossed in state penitentiaries, where they can't be pardoned.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol yeah, right

Rule of law for fascists does not apply in fascism buddy

You literally have a convicted felon as president

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

States are different from Federal. If a blue state incarcerates a MAGA leader, there's nothing HitlerPig can do to get them loose, short of military force.

It would be fun to snatch up Jr on a cocaine charge.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah? How is that Georgia election racketeering going for Trump now?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A state will never get HitlerPig, he's got SCOTUS immunity superpowers, but that immunity doesn't extend to anyone else. If one of his henchmen has broken state laws, throw the state book at them.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I desperately want to believe you, give me one single example so I can buy it

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whats to buy? Its simple: If The MuskRat has been bribing people for their votes, and it violates state laws, that state can choose to arrest him, prosecute him, and imprison him, and there is nothing HitlerPig can do about it. He can pardon for federal crimes, but not state crimes.

The problem is that there are lot of major tipping points lining up, and everybody is waiting for one to finally tip. Maybe it will be the arrest of The MuskRat, maybe it will be the Luigi trial/verdict, maybe it will be the first American citizen that gets designated as a terrorist and shipped to El Salvador without due process, maybe it will be the cancellation of SS payments, maybe it will be a violent government reaction to a protest, etc.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you don't have a single example where a connected crony of the federal gov, is actually brought to justice by a State?

I bet you the pizza of your choice nothing will happen tobMusk over this clear vote bribing

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course I don't, that's the point. It's time for this to start happening. HitlerPig is using an archaic, rarely used, ancient law to justify the worst sort of authoritarian behavior (denied due process), so why not use actual contrmporary laws that are enforced every day, and for which ANY other person would be charged for?

The Right is always screaming about State's Rights, but they never consider how the swords they deploy against their enemies have two edges, and can be turned against themselves as well. Building an opposition strategy around State's Rights, and using alliances between Blue states to stand up against MAGA is one way to consolidate and focus resistance.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's time for this to start happening

You can't possibly be this naive