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This type of comment is why people don't try new things.
The second game is incredibly difficult and frustrating. I've got about 600 hours in it so far. The learning curve is very steep and if you don't pay attention you might miss easy ways to do quests and you'll have to murder hobo or save scum. Sometimes I feel like the developers are straight up trolls who do shit intentionally hostile to the user.
That said the game is very rewarding and fun once it clicks. It's kind of like soulslikes in that regard. You just have to play it to get better at it. AND DON"T CLICK CANCEL THE DIALOG!!!
There is a place for every type of game and every type of gamer. If you are a condescending dick to people they aren't going to want to try the harder games and you won't be able to talk to them about how cool the harder games are.
For anyone who wants to actually talk about the game with others who like it come join us at /c/kingdomcomedeliverance.
For the record, I didn't skip the dialogue; I accidentally chose one option too quickly and then was not presented with the option to choose the other one the next time I spoke to the same NPC. The kind of quality of life I'm looking for is the stuff that makes it clear to me, a person in the modern world, what Henry would know. Or at least to be able to jump over a shin-high chain without hitting a collision box that tells me I can't.
Oh I know. That was more a warning for others coming along.
You're going to have to get used to frustration with henry's athleticism if you play the second. My man struggles to run over logs sometimes. Other time's he's an olympic hurdler.
Would you say that the game cleaned up some of conveyance of information from the first game? Or have you not played the first game to compare it against? Maybe I just have to get used to what the game does and doesn't tell me.
I've only played up until Talmberg in the first one. I jumped off the castle and broke my ankles and couldn't run from a guard so I called it quits.
The second game doesn't tell you anything either. The developers seem to want the player to figure out as much as they can by themselves.
My suggestion is do the quests until you get frustrated then just look up how to do it via a guide. For me that was quite often during my first playthrough (looking at you Tomcat). Many times the game will tell you how to complete something via dialog but it isn't clear what it's telling you until a second playthrough. Luckily the game autosaves at key moments during quests so you'll only lose an hour or three (lol not a joke) if you fuck up badly.
Gotcha, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer, but I guess I'll try to enjoy the game for what it's good at.
Is it though? In a world of limited time refunds, someone complains about something that is the exact ethos of a game, I tell them, probably not for you, play AC shadows, which is undoubtedly a good game for people who want a more accessible open world experience than KCD that is less demanding of your attention and less punishing of your time. Likely, in time for a full refund so they're not stuck with something they find obnoxious, but I'm the ass for telling someone not to stick to something they clearly don't like and get something more tailored to their taste. Maybe you should take your own advice, stick with me, ask me what I mean, go past whatever you interpreted my comment meant initially and see if it's better to have someone frustrated at a game or have them play something they will like better.
Your original comment came off sarcastic and condescending. That is what they are referring to.
Every single one of the components of my comment are factual, I did not insult anyone, and gave pretty good advice, recommending a good game that a lot of people like. The way they are interpreted is not on me.
There was nothing factual about bringing the character simplicity into this because you made it sound like the reason they failed to find an objective was because they weren't reading and enjoying the story, when what they explained perfectly well was that they picked one dialogue option, not realising it was going to be mutually exclusive with the other because both options just looked like informational inquiries, and the other option with relevant info was gone forever. Simple characters has nothing to do with that, and made it look VERY much like you were saying they weren't up to the task of enjoying a game with interesting ones.
That was exactly the reason, it was factual that simplicity played a massive role in this discussion. The game has quest tracking but it's limited to 3 active quests. It also has an extensive quest log. Rather than calling out their obvious incapability of reading a sentence, I opted to direct them towards games more geared to the effort they are ostensibly willing to put into a game. The fact them and their alt/cronies turned this into a brigade, should inform anyone what is the level of human being we're dealing with here. Victimhood olympics, the US merican specials. Hasan Minaj put it better than I ever will be able to. Anything for fake sympathy points.