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[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 42 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I'm indifferent on unsold Teslas being targeted, not like law exists in this country anymore. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I am absolutely 100% fucking appalled that people would be ok with doxing Tesla owners. These are real people with families who now have to fear for their safety because they thought it was cool technology when they bought the car. They also may not be able to easily afford to sell the car and buy a new or used one right away.

This does nothing good for anyone and hurts any resistance movement and sadly makes any resistance look like it lacks empathy for fellow human beings just like how what the right is doing shows they lack empathy.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Eh, I think most people would agree with you here but no one would go out of their way to stop or even denounce this cause that's at the very bottom of the list of issues.

[–] 3xBork@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

And just like that we're now all focused on the couple of (quite frankly) idiots that are burning consumers' Teslas instead of the unsold ones at dealerships. Again. Just like every discussion of a protest is not about the tens of thousands of people protesting but about the 10 people looting.

Looks like the attempt to control the narrative is working as expected.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No innocent people on this website as far as I can tell

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You shouldn't be ok with doxing people even if they are not good people.

It's an all or nothing standpoint. If you are fine with people getting doxxed for some reason you believe to be evil, then you inadvertently say that doxxing as a whole is fine. Eventually someone innocent is going to get doxxed, whether it be by accident (no such list of doxxed people is 100% accurate) or by someone with different viewpoints than you.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

anyone that makes goose and gander comparisons applying to both humans and sociopaths is woefully naive.

it's ok when the good guys do it. we get all the exceptions, they get none. it's a war. they're not humans anymore. if we want to win, we have to see it that way. there is no amount of cruelty we can inflict on our enemies that will cause greater suffering than what happens if they win.

no fucking mercy. guns.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think you’ve looked at the website. The only individuals on there are Elon musk and cash Patel

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dogequest said it will remove the personal details of Tesla drivers only if they can prove they have sold their vehicles.

It is unknown if all the names listed on the map are Tesla owners. In New Jersey, the site listed close to 50 alleged owners.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/19/dogequest-website-is-reportedly-exposing-tesla-owners-sensitive-info/82546251007/

NBC News spoke to six Tesla owners or their representatives who confirmed that at least some information on the website was accurate, though other owners said that in some cases phone numbers or addresses were out of date.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/tesla-dogequest-website-owner-list-dox-site-link-rcna197112

Considering one of their statement literally says that to prove you shouldn't be doxxed you have to give out even more private info, it seems pretty telling.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh I see! I do not support doxxing regular people

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

then you're weak and a liability to the cause.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lol. How am I a “liability to the cause” exactly?

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You want war? Read a book on guerrilla warfare. It’s about hearts and minds. You’re shooting yourself in the foot by arguing with people who largely agree with you.

Why can’t you join an open and honest discussion about that to do? Is it weakness 🤔

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i'm done listening to toddlers reinvent solutions that didn't work the first time.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

wtf are you talking about

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the ends justify the means. if we fail at this stage, dystopia will reign over western civilization for generations to come. the cruelest things we do to defeat the fascists pale in comparison to the damage they will do if they are allowed to take over.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Assuming for one moment that the ends really do justify the means, how is burning somebody's car going to stop the rise of fascism?

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it's a war. all resistance is for the cause.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And how does trespassing on some random person's property and destroying their car constitute "resistance?"

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

it's a total rejection of musk. it will force tesla to oust him. the car owners are just pawns in a greater war against the fascists. sorry/not sorry.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok, say this all succeeds and Musk is thrown out of Tesla. What next? He'll still be the a billionaire with a US President as a puppet and complete "authority" to continue gutting the federal government.

I'm usually really good at being able to be objective and see both sides of an issue. I just can't do that with this. It's equivalent to a gang spraying and praying and killing innocent bystanders and saying "Oh well, it was for the cause". Like how is this any better than the right being ok with making millions of poor people homeless and hungry?

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

honestly? i don't think i even care at this point. we're a cancer. i'm in favor of just about anything that reduces the global population by half without destroying the environment or harming innocent animals.

rwandan style genocide seems like exactly what we deserve. i'd rather see the left pull it off than the right.