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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Duplicates are a minor issue. That said, solution #2 (multi-comms) is considerably better than #3 (comms following comms).

The problems with #3 are:

  • Topics are almost never as discrete as the author pretends them to be. Often they overlap, but only partially.
  • Different comms have different rules, and in this situation rule enforcement becomes a mess.

There's no good solution for that. On the other hand, the problems the author associates with #2 are easy to solve, if users are allowed to share their multi-comms with each other as links:

  • a new user might not know which comms to follow, but they can simply copy a multi-comm from someone who does
  • good multi-comms are organically shared by users back and forth

Additionally, multi-comms address the root issue. The root issue is not that you got duplicate communities; it's that communities in general, even without duplicates, are hard to discover. Also note that the root issue is not exclusive to federated platforms, it pops up in Reddit too; it's a consequence of users being able to create comms by themselves.

About #1 (merging communities): to a certain extent users already do this. Nothing stops you from locking [!pancakes@a.com](/c/pancakes@a.com) with a pinned thread like "go to [!pancakes@b.com](/c/pancakes@b.com)".


This is a minor part of the text, but I feel in the mood to address it:

I post once to gauge interest then never post again because I got choice paralysis

The same users who get "choice paralysis" from deciding where to post are, typically, the ones who: can't be arsed to check rules before posting, can't be arsed to understand what someone else said before screeching, comment idiotic single-liners that add nothing but noise, whine "wah, TL;DR!" at anything with 100+ chars... because all those things backtrack to the same mindset: "thinking is too hard lol. I'm entitled to speak my empty mind, without thinking if I'm contributing or not lmao."

Is this really the sort of new user that we old users want to welcome here? Growth is important, but unrestricted growth regardless of cost is cancer.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Topics are almost never as discrete as the author pretends them to be. Often they overlap, but only partially.

Maybe I am not fully understanding your point here but from my point of view this is just not true?

A lot of the traffic is going to be on very general topics like "memes" or "technology" where posts are going to fit pretty much every other similar community.

Plus, in this case whoever has the authorities to follow communities can decide if the posts fit, so you're not losing anything if posts from a more specific community like "wholesome memes" end up showing up in a more general "memes" community.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The same users who get “choice paralysis” from deciding where to post are, typically, the ones who

I'm not so sure. I sometimes have choice paralysis again on a topic I'm not familiar with, and I'm sure quite a lot of other people do as well

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure plenty exceptions exist - that's why I said "typically", it's that sort of generalisation that applies less to real individuals and more to an abstract "typical user".

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

@threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works , which is quite active as well, has a similar experience: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39248886/17090166

To me, choice paralysis happens to most of people, whatever their familiarity level with the platform. I would actually be worried if someone knew exactly where to post for any topic, because it would mean they probably just default to their home instance

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I've personally developed my system as:

  1. If there are multiple communities, which is the most popular?
  2. If the most popular community is on a problematic instance, skip to the next most popular that is also on a good instance.

That takes away the paralysis, at least for me.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What do you do when there are two similarly active communities?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hm, I can't recall encountering that yet, but I can see how that would be a harder one to decide. I suppose I might cycle between them.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] humiddragonslayer@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it's fair to choose the smaller instance then, in the interest of diversification.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Indeed, but as long as other people still prefer the LW version both communities will continue to splinter the conversations