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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Ok so

As a single WASP (ok well, I grew up protestant) male in my 30s, who has the confidence of an abandoned kitten, how exactly does this benefit me?

Like I feel like this is supposed to be about men like me getting more power over women. But I fail to see how that helps me at all.

All I can see is that they start here, remove voting rights next, then they remove the ability for women to be licensed to be doctors, or lawyers, dentists, etc. That's gonna fuck my life up immensely.

Just so women can't have a say? Why?

Conservative views on women are absolutely confusing. I know we have to abandon logic with them, but maybe that's the part I don't understand: how the fuck do I think without logic?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 24 points 1 year ago

That's the thing: it isn't. The patriarchy is bad for 95% of men, as well, but a huge chunk of those believe it's good for them because at least they're not a woman.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

It's not about what's good for you, it's about what's good for the people in power. And as women increasingly turn away from the Republican party, they're going to want to disenfranchise them.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatives believe hierarchies are natural and unavoidable. If you can push someone else down on the hierarchy then that will put you higher up on the hierarchy then you were before. Shrinking someone else's piece of the pie leaves more pie available for you.

Leftists believe in making a bigger pie.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Also sharing the pie equitably

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I actually think it's more targeted toward the Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit follower types, and the propaganda does appear to be working on younger men, who are rapidly becoming more "conservative." They're extremely insecure in their masculinity, and think the subservience of women would be affirming.

Of course, it actually just hurts everyone, barring the people that benefit from keeping the working class divided.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Do remember that it's only some men that will get that power, not all men. WASP is just the start of the verification process for you. The lie that men like you will get this power is what gets regular joes to buy in without realizing they'll never see those promises materialize.

I've worked enough retail to know that there are plenty of people out there who will gladly jump at the opportunity to be a petty tyrant themselves.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

It benefits you, because with almost half the population removed from the paid labor pool, you are more likely to earn more, and get jobs you likely would not have gotten before.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They are fine with women being doctors and dentists. They won't have any respect for those professions if they are female dominated, but they are caring roles so they fit into the fundie worldview. Lawyers might make them uncomfortable. They would be fine with women as paralegals, but they would want a man in the courtroom and the boardroom.

None of them should be paid well enough to live truly independently. Can't have women building wealth outside of marriage. It's a process really. Give them a couple generations in power and they might clamp down on employment outside the kitchen or the nursery.