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[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's obviously pretty stupid, but we shouldn't act like the Americans are especially dumb, this is happening all over the globe.

People see: "economy is bad" so people vote out whoever is in power and vote in whoever screams the loudest that they have a magical fix. I would be shocked if the average trump, AFD etc. voter spends more then 15 minutes researching their vote (outside the endless stream of political content on yt and tiktok).

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 38 points 1 year ago

True, only with Trump we already had a round of him trying to run us into the ground while trying to sell off everything not bolted down, while also golfing like he was on the PGA tour (quantity NOT quality), and up-charging his secret service detail and foreign "reps" that stayed at all his properties and funneling all that illegal money back into his coffers while funding everything he did on tax payer dollars.

But yeah, he was clearly the choice to "stick it to the man".

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s obviously pretty stupid, but we shouldn’t act like the Americans are especially dumb, this is happening all over the globe.

Is it really, though? Which other first-world country would you say is even remotely as far down the rabbit hole of idiocy as the USA?

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Argentina, Brazil, Germany to an extent, France is flirting with it, Italy, the Netherlands (my country) is fucking around and finding out, Hungary has been at it since before it was cool, Indonesia elected a literal was criminal. And that’s all the cases I know about.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Canada has also been flirting with it, and UK kind of already did it in a different way. There's probably quite a few more. I'm glad you're at least bringing up the diversity of these populations; even Russia has some good citizens ultimately hopeless at situations that are out of their control (although US has some ways to go before they round up all dissonance).

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Other than Hungary those examples are not even in the same postal code as what's happening in the US, let alone the same ballpark. Argentina and Indonesia were always a clusterfuck, and were never first-world countries.

[–] Heyting@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Did you forget about the previous Polish fascist piss government? Or Hungary, Italy, The Netherlands, and there’s probably more that I’m forgetting.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh please, for instance AfD got 20% of the vote, and have no real power, because Germany has an actually functioning democracy.
But yes we hear a lot of warnings against AfD, because they are like MAGA, difference is they can't disrupt everything with lies like in USA. Because in EU you have responsibility when using your freedom of speech. You can't parrot some idiot making history falsification, ands claim you are just "reporting" it. Unfortunately the old East Germany is unhappy with the state of things, and want to go back to before the country was split. Which means they want Nazi Germany back.

this is happening all over the globe.

This is textbook false equivalence.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. Americans are very quick to deflect and turn to whataboutism when held responsible for their actions.