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Luigi Mangione, charged with the December 2024 murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, released his first public statement through a new website launched by his defense team.

He expressed gratitude for widespread support and acknowledged the letters he has received. The website provides case updates and a fundraiser, which has raised over $400,000.

Mangione has gained a following among those frustrated with the U.S. healthcare system. A poll found 41% of voters under 30 viewed the assassination as acceptable.

His next court date is Feb. 21.

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[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 272 points 1 year ago (7 children)

A poll found 41% of voters under 30 viewed the assassination as acceptable.

Crazy how we can see numbers like this and then see other articles saying only "dark corners of the internet" support Luigi.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's greater than the percentage of Americans who voted for Trump in the 2024 election.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but a more direct comparison would be to voters under 30. Around 46% of 18-29 yr. olds supported Trump.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. And the original poll estimated that 41% of voters under 30 approved of Mangione's actions. My point is statistics are more valuable and informative when you try your best to compare apples to apples.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Voters" doesn't mean "people who voted in the most recent election" but "people who are registered to vote" so the other commenter is correct.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry but no? "Voters" means the same thing in both cases, that's how statistics works. You take a small subset of people and try to control for as much as possible to make it an accurate representation of the greater population. Nobody actually knows what Voters in the abstract think if they don't vote or answer polls

If "voters" means the same in both cases, why did you use numbers that specifically only apply to the last election to make a point?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago

IDK if it's the case here, but a poll that goes 40% yes 10% no 50% no answer usually gets reported as "40% yes" without context if they want to insinuate the no is in majority.

It's the same as when Trump's Greenland poll got reported as "80% no" without mentioning the 12% "no answer" and the 8% yes part.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Surprised it's not higher actually.

[–] capybara@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are saying that this is a low percentage, but I think it could be considered high. Murder (i.e. not necessarily killing a human in general) is classically and in general a really bad thing. Even if people don't care for the parasitic company's CEO and might be glad that he's dead, I could imagine that their gut feeling would tell them to not consider an assassination acceptable.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

Hmm, you say that but people cheer when villains are killed in movies. Brian Thompson killed tens of thousands of people and caused immense suffering to millions of people. In our darkest hour, when it looked like the oligarchs had won and were untouchable, Luigi took a stand against evil and gave us all hope. Luigi is a hero.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, people from the dark corners of the internet are probably pretty good at finding polls about things they're interested in, lol

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

to be clear, voters under 30 is what like 40% of all the voting public? So we're talking like less than 10% of the voting populous, probably at most.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Did you just multiply 40% and 41% in your head and decide the answer was less than 10%?

Sorry, I know this is barely relevant, but the implied calculus there shook me a bit.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

im lazy but statistics is weird like that, you would be taking 40% of 100, and then taking 40% (i think i just used the wrong number lmao) of that block, so like 8 ish was my quick estimate, i was off by about a factor of 2, but that's still pretty good for schizo statistics that i have no idea the validity of.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My good ser, statistics are not weird like that you're overcomplicating it in your head. It is .40 times .40, or in other words, 4*4 then move the decimel two spaces over.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah and i just didnt do that, idk what you want from me lmao

[–] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

40℅ * 41% = 16.4%

You can do it quickly in your head by using 4*4=16 and then adding on the last .4%.

[–] Thetimefarm@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you look carefully you may notice that 16.4 - 10 = 6.4 which is not zero, so our original poster was off by at least 64%.

Yay I can do math too!

[–] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was my point. They were commending maths that was incorrect where an exact calculation is trivial, even for someone like me who is somewhat poor at mental arithmetic.

tbf, if im going through the trouble of using real stats math, i'm going to dig out some actually real statistics to base it off of, rather than some silly lemmy post, or comment claiming a specific thing, evidently, i didn't do that.