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WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

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[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"hey guys don't politicize an attempted political assassination"

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really what I said at all. “Hey guys, don’t make stuff up, please rely on credible sources, and don’t advocate for violence”.

Or, in other words: follow the rules we’ve always had in place

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Advocating for, or not advocating for, violence is a political stance. Many people defend Israel's ongoing genocide and are not blocked from doing so. That doesn't feel like the rules being consistently enforced. The people speculating on whether or not this is staged have access to the same information as everyone else, and in the spirit of true discourse, if it was seen to be false you could figure that out by discussion rather than censorship.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't personally think it was staged, but be honest ... it's not like you delete every single comment that doesn't have sources ...

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speculating on an event that has already occured is not a "life or death situation" in the way spreading information that discourages the use of life-saving vaccines is.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're making moderation policy based on an assumption that people who have been exposed to the idea that the shooting may have been staged are more likely to incite violence than people who haven't been? You don't have source for that stance do you? One could argue that believing it is a failed assassination attempt would also incite people to violence. If a comment in particular calls for violence, thats one thing, but what you're saying is not logical.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You said you are restricting discussion on whether the assassination was staged because it is a life or death situation. You have not provided compelling evidence that one form of speculation is more or less "life or death" than another.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are not restricting discussion (those are your words) because this is a life and death situation.

we are removing purely speculative and baseless assertions of fact, because this is a life and death situation.

So one, like I said, it's not really a life and death situation. And secondly, in the immediate aftermath of an event, practically everything is speculation.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The virus was studied by multiple different healthcare agencies across multiple different continents.

This is not comparable to the performance yesterday.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's your source.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583

NEW YORK — The leader of a conservative think tank orchestrating plans for a massive overhaul of the federal government in the event of a Republican presidential win said that the country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

It's INSANE to me that you'd suggest we do nothing or even promote political violence over this.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)