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MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

Do not advocate or celebrate violence, please. Comments advocating violence will be deleted and bans will be issued.

Also, please avoid promoting conspiracies. Discussing current events is fine but suggesting things like “it’s a false flag” without evidence is spreading a conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How do the people get justice for a convicted criminal that's above the law? Is there a reason why the constitution has an amendment for guns? Why are so many platforms against the constitution and against the need for correct course when apt?

Stop acting like corpo reddit admins and mods.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (22 children)

"no actual discussion allowed" got it

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why not? Isnt that what americans claim the second amendment is for?Prevent fascism?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Sic semper tyrannis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

spreading a conspiracy

I know this is off-topic, but can we please go back to saying "conspiracy theory"? Conspiracy and conspiracy theories are not the same. There are actual conspiracies (a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful) , and there are theories of conspiracies. They should not be confused.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I know you have to say this, but holy shit do I disagree.

This person advocated significant violence and contributed to the deaths and loss of human rights of thousands. A good whack of the world would turn up hungover to work tomorrow after celebrating only a few inches over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They don't have to say that.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

A reminder, he incited people Jan 6th which resulted in deaths.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (11 children)

That's not a justification for more violence, two wrongs don't make a right. He was wrong for doing what he did and this is wrong as well. This is because political violence in it's entirety is wrong. Jesus, do people not have principles anymore? Seeing all the supposedly moral people turn into Q anon level conspiracy theorists who condone violence is depressing.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

What peeves me is that the right are all clutching their pearls about anyone who says anything other than blind Trump sympathy. Don't get me wrong, political violence is wrong. But, remember this:

When Paul Pelosi got his face bashed in with a hammer, the right made fun of it. Mocked him. Idk, man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is what is so frustrating.

Conservatives call for violence; Call for rising up; Literally calling themselves DOMESTIC TERRORISTS: Absolutely a nothing burger. Just a bunch of locker room talk. Relax that's normal conservative speech.

Liberals blinking aggressively: WHY ARENT YOU MORE TOLERANT BE BETTER.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If you're planning to take out an aspiring despot, you better be damn sure of your shot

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biden added: "Jill and I are grateful to the Secret Service for getting him to safety. There’s no place for this kind of violence in America. We must unite as one nation to condemn it,"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-he-is-grateful-hear-trump-is-safe-has-been-briefed-shooting-2024-07-14/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Must the Democrats champion good manners ALL the time? Jesus Christ he's a fascist! Fuck good sportsmanship!

Who the fuck are you trying to impress? Who's going to consider this the moment they vote for Biden over Trump?

"Violence has no place in America."

Cops killing citizens. Native genocide. Genocide in Palestine. Protesters being beaten. People using their "rights" being arrested and killed. Slow socially accepted murder caused by poverty. Rights for Queer youth being taken away, which leads to self harm.

Why do they just give "thoughts and prayers" to Hitler 2.0? Trump isn't going to be kind with this, he'll start saying every Democrat is responsible for this. Fuck the "higher moral ground".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Gotta love how people are instantly pulling a QAnon deal of “ITS A FALSE FLAG, FAKE NEWS, NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT A GRAND CABAL!”

Somehow Trump is a mastermind of this. The dude who can’t hide stolen files properly, can’t lie on his taxes properly, and loses money on a casino, somehow has the ability to rig a false flag assassination attempt.

Are NeoLibs that so far into the Kool-Aid that Dipshit Trump is also a grandmaster 5D chess player of this, while not being able to string words together? It’s not like he’s ever been a good actor.

"Now Trump's gonna say Biden tried to kill him."

He already said that.

"Now Trump's gonna call for repression of the left."

He already did that.

"Now they're gonna say Trump is a martyr."

They already say that.

"Now the right is gonna get violent with their political opponents."

They already do that.

"Now the fash are gonna push for an enabling act."

They already are doing that.

It's equally frustrating and vindicating that people are waking up to the alarms minorities have been sounding for... decades? Even during 9/11, people were saying this is the start of the end for any form of freedom. Then we had economic crash after crash. Then more rights removed. More drone strikes. More illegal wars.

Then we tried to warn about Trump. No one cared. He won. The people who said he would hurt did get hurt. People acted shocked.

Biden came in. Ignored the people in jail cells, ignored COVID for better polling, refusing the new powers given to him to do anything better for the country at large, and slowly turning into a walking skeleton.

And every single time people have said "Hey this is bad for any form of democracy" people said it was overblown, nothing bad would happen. Then it got worse and worse. Voting didn't solve most of the issues. Protesting did. And then both parties clamped harder on protestors and increased funding to the militarized police.

Welcome to Weimar Germany, America. People have only warned you for decades. If this doesn't wake anyone up, then you'll sleepwalk as you claim ignorance on why you're "just following orders".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out

Because I was MLK's white moderate.

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate,

who is more devoted to "order" than to justice;

who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice;

who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action";

who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alright, let's get it out ahead of time, since I'm already seeing this:

It's probably not staged. Trump reacts quickly - the fuck kind of timing you think that bloated potato has? To lift his hand to his ear just as the gunshot rings out? And the idea that the shooter grazed him on purpose is, likewise, absurd. The kind of risk that would entail, to just nick his ear?

Whether the shooter was insane or politically motivated, this is a real event.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Genuinely infurating that the moment anything happens, NeoLibs will just start copying right-wing talking points.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Will or they did? Any examples?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If you check the modlog, before the Mods here started removing them, dozens of commenters said its a false flag, set up by trump.

Here's a screenshot of it happening on PoliticalMemes. EDIT: Used the proper screenshot. https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/9664605

And here's some screenshots of the mod logs:

This isn't getting into the ones on Mastodon and Twitter who also repeated the same Alex Jones level thinking.

EDIT: Weird how I gave proof, they move the goal posts. Give proof, move the goal posts. I'm starting to think they just want an excuse for their weird takes and Q-Anon thinking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I love lemm.ee

Yhe mod log is available for all to see. You can even search by username.

Only one ban so far, I think I'm doing good!

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