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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 276 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a fascist coup.

They took control of the judiciary some time ago, they recently seized the executive and now they're destroying any remaining institutional power that can oppose them.

The current regime is not legitimate.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The current technically still is, but the regime they are transforming into won't be anymore legitimate.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With all the voters suppression tactics, gerrymandering in the house, and all the ballots they had discarded, it's not legitimate.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 31 points 1 year ago

Elon's cash for votes scheme, the amount of russian money and planning on one side, plus there's a decent chance that the fascists just committed direct electoral fraud as well.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one has convincingly explained away the abnormally high number of bullet ballots and odd ballot switching at 500 votes in swing states like AZ, IMO.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw a more reputable site say that they weren't actually as high because counting wasn't complete and the % more evened out and that guy also had wrong numbers in cases, but I really didn't follow up enough on it to know if it was legit not a problem, or if that site was the one making up shit.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe you. Can you share where you saw this?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't have time to verify this, I'm busy for a bit, but, a quick search brings up this

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/

Again I haven't even had time to go through this, but it might give you more details to follow and find other sources based on whats in there.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not legitimate because most of the stuff they are doing is plain out-and-out illegal. But like they (Don Jr., etc) said before the election, they were going to go ahead and do it anyway and dare anyone including SCOTUS to try and stop them. It's going to come down to our military to choose a side.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, if this gets bad enough, I won't be surprised if the military indirectly allows him to be removed by force.

It's incredibly rare for a tyrant to actually be removed by force by a mob of disorganized revolutionaries. When you see instances of this happening, what's usually actually happening is that the military has lost all confidence in the dictator, and they simply stand aside and let the mob storm the palace.

Think about just what a precarious situation Trump and Musk are going to find themselves in after they fire half the federal government. The DC metro area is going to be at a level of unemployment that dwarfs that of the Great Depression. The whole population of DC will be wanting to see heads on pikes.

The military wouldn't even have to intervene directly themselves. All they would have to do is stand aside and let the mob storm the gates. That exact scenario has brought down countless tyrants over the generations.

Dictators don't tend to meet good ends.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

One thing I feel sure of is that at some point Trump will order the military to fire on civilians. I thought it would take some time to build up to that point, but I hadn't factored the magnitude of the Musk variable into the equation. I'd love it if there really was a deep state that would step in and come to our rescue via some kind of "special operation".

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't the army already have little trust in Trump?

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

And the new SecDef can just throw out anyone who decides to get in the way or defy orders, no matter how illegal. They'll keep digging until they either scare everyone into following orders, or they'll deputize loyal GOP members as a sort of paramilitary (including their friends in the various militias).

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He polls really well with them for whatever reason.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago

Except the current "president" isn't constitutionally eligible to hold the office after inciting insurrection, so no, it really isn't legitimate even now