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[–] amzd@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because delta chat is using an open protocol (email) and you can run your own servers meaning it is decentralized unlike Signal. Also it is actually anonymous unlike Signal, so you don’t need to give anyone your phone number and people can’t find where you live just by knowing your username.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because delta chat is using an open protocol (email)

So not an instant messaging protocol but rather a technology that the whole world would do differently if they could go back in time?

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 6 points 1 year ago

Should definitely be the go-to

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you use your email, it's anonymous but you have to use your email which is almost never anonymous and has your phone number. Also you sometimes have to "Create an app-specific password" that delta chat will use and gain full access to your email account, which is way worse than signal or any other application. And for some accounts, you have to use your real password, and maybe disable the spam protection.

Am I wrong somewhere or is that a really stupid idea?

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you struggle making a new email address, this is not for you.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which applies to 99% of people making Delta Chat not a viable alternative to WhatsApp.

The Fediverse has the same problem that Linux, and Open Source in general, struggles with. The barriers to entry and network effects work against widespread adoption.

Until technology is packaged in a way that makes it dead simple and/or unavoidable, people won’t make the effort to move en masse.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Our words must be dead simple too.

'Open source' is a very ambiguous, confusing, phrase that makes it too easy for anti-libre software to scam.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

During onboarding of the app you only choose a name and get a random email address

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you don’t need to give anyone your phone number

You do not need to give your number anymore to use Signal.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You cannot make a Signal account without phone number so that’s not true.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But we are not obliged to share it with our correspondents.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unregistered users can't chat, so it needs a number, as OP said.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I’d rather not share my identity though. Seems like an odd requirement for a “private” messenger

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Signal is not anonymous.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Signal is private in that other people can't intercept your messages, including signal. The signal app is open-source so you can be relatively certain it's not tracking your decrypted messages, unlike closed-source apps like WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger or any other private social media.

Signal is not anonymous from an account standpoint, because you need a phone number to sign up, even if you can choose not to display it in your account.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This does nothing to fix the problem.