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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Real question here: It is titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.” - Has the Gulf of Mexico ever been named "Gulf of America" in any reasonable historical context, or is this just the usual made-up "fact" from Donald the Jester?

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Actually, the Gulf of Mexico appears called like that around 1500 AD, when the United States were not even an idea of a nation. So no, it never was called like that because it was named centuries before the US existed.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In this vein, I'm ok with calling it Gulf of America, the (super)continent, so long as the denonym for people of the USA also changes, since it's a continent.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Agreed. We should no longer be referred to as Americans, and instead let's call ourselves the Shitholes.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Alright folks, time to pick a demonym! Cast your votes on USAians or Absolute Unit[ed State]s.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I vote for Usan, pronounced YOO-sn.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We can just be called usasians or Americans. Africa, Europe, and Australia, watch out we're gunning for ways to name ourselves after yall too.

[–] amon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Just call the whole thing Washington to make things even more confusing.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe Gulf of (Central) America

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I've been trying to move away from the terms "America" and "American" when discussing specifically The United States or it's people.

Not doing so is often at insult to the majority of people living in the Americas.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's weird how people seem to think that demonyms should match the name of the country exactly...

Should we also say "united kingdomer"?

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. We say English, for England, and Irish for Ireland, and Scottish for Scotland, and Welsh for Wales. French for France. German, Germany. Italian, Italy. Japanese, Japan. Canadian, Canada. Australian, Australia. Brazilian, Brazil. Mexican, Mexico.

I mean come on.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"British" isn't a thing?

How colonial of you to determine that you get to tell other people what they should be called.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

British does refer to the English blokes though. Don't call a proud Scotsman that you think him to be British.

Arguably the Welsh and Scots are British, the English are filthy fucking Saxons.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"British" isn't a thing?

Not really, no.

A Scott wouldn't because it would associate them with England, a Welshman wouldn't, because it would associate them with England.

And I wouldn't, because someone might think I'm Welsh or Scottish. 🤷

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Well I'm going to call you british because you're from the british isles. "

This is my point - you don't get to define how others refer to themselves.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That only makes sense if you also call every german person deutscher, every japanese person 日本人 and every Croatian person hrvat

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm calling Scots "British" from now on because they live in Britain.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Go on, I dare you 🤣

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nope. But Donzo the clown runs the circus now