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North Dakota voters will decide this fall whether to eliminate property taxes in what would be a first for a state and a major change that officials initially estimate would require more than $1 billion every year in replacement revenue.

Secretary of State Michael Howe’s office said Friday that backers submitted more than enough signatures to qualify the constitutional initiative for the November general election. Voters rejected a similar measure in 2012.

Property taxes are the base funding for numerous local government services, including sewers, water, roads, jails, deputies, school building construction and teacher salaries — “pretty much the most basic of government,” said North Dakota Association of Counties Executive Director Aaron Birst.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Another red welfare state making it worse

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure that this isn't a Democrat-Republican issue.

goes looking

Yeah.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/102015/7-best-states-property-taxes-and-why.asp

Nebraska and Texas have some of the highest effective property tax rates in the country.

Hawaii has one of the lowest, and California's pretty low too.

There's definitely regionality -- the Midwest has (mostly) high, and the western Great Plains states low -- but it doesn't really map to Democrat-Republican status.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

north dakota's tax burden overall is pretty low, though: 7th lowest among the states.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

But you have to compare it in context.

In Canada, Alberta has no sales tax because they make so much money from oil. In normal conditions and with a working government that is not idiotic, such a system could work. However they have a stupid government that only does this to buy votes so when oil drops they drown

So, in this context, does North Dakota have an alternative revenue stream to compensate?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

they have a stupid government that only does this to buy votes so when oil drops they drown

Remember, Peter Lougheed first won the region for the conservatives on a platform of fiscal resilience through diversification and using oil money specifically to fund the development and growth of people and sectors currently ignored. The ignored people liked this.

Then the party, after winning, gutted the plans.

So, it's not like this is their plan. It's their plan, despite alternative plans winning in the polls to get them the region, which were then gutted in favour of their plan. Said another way, they could have been better, the voters wanted better, they didn't get better, the voters didn't bury them for it. They're the "stop hitting yourself" of voters.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah. Oil.

It's the third highest oil producing state in the country and like seven people live there.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And is the oil industry paying their share so the government of North Dakota can continue their duties without property taxes?