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I mean, weren’t the Spartans kinda gay, at least by modern standards? Or at least, same sex activity was pretty normalized, even encouraged, as a society?
Kind of. Male-male relationships were widespread in Ancient Greece, but typically as part of a temporary mentor-student relationship between a teen and an adult man.
The Theban Sacred Band was exclusively gay, and more 'recognizable' to modern eyes, as it consisted of adult male couples who swore sacred oaths to be loyal to one another.
Who among us hasn't sworn a sacred oath to be loyal to their best friend? That doesn't make us gay. We just raised corgis together for 40 years in a one bedroom house to save money and asked to be buried together.
"We just had sex together in the military for a few years and expressed our undying love for each other because that's just What You Do in the Sacred Band. No homo, right bro?"
Bro, as he picks up their adopted son: "No homo, babe"
I mean you go to the gym and exercise naked with other naked dudes, then chill with dudes at the market while your slaves do the shopping, then maybe go with your buddies to watch naked dudes wrestling, before having a night long drinking session where ladies are forbidden to do anything except like bring you figs while you watch an older guy fondling a young dude. They were gay as fuuuuuuck.
The more I read about greek history, the more I realise Greece's most annoying enemy was Sparta.