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Conservatism or fear-mongering (lemmy.world)
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To my knowledge, the concept of "conservatism" is the will to conserve, preserve past values that are seen as superior. While I don't agree with this either, this community has almost exclusively posts about fearing new things and trying to show them as evil. Evil migrants, evil new generations, evil new sexualities, whatever.

I do not see any "values" in it, only fear. Rejecting migrants is not based on morals or values that are rational, but on fear. Same for the rest. Which leads to the question, what is the point of this community? It does not lead to debate, people calling it out as fascism on one side (which is quite justified as the root ideas are seemingly identical) and the other side just saying that it's wrong and that's it. There's no debate of values, as there are no values to debate about.

I do not agree with the concept of conservatism, and I couldn't care less if this place is forever doomed to be downvoted in oblivion. But if you actually want to do something else than fear-mongering, even if you insist on talking about conservatism, then maybe it would be a good idea to refocus the community on actual ideas, and not the typical far-right speeches of hatred and fear that already flood a lot of media.

Of course I believe that it would be better to reconsider opinions that basically encourage the worst of humanity; but even aside from that, there is more to do than to replace every possibility of a conversation with the (stereo)typical "immigrants bad, jesus good, gays evil" speech.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ideally Conservatism should be about being reserved/realistic and Liberalism should be about being optimistic/hopeful. Kind of like finding balance between art and science if that matters any sense.

Let's take imagination for example. A liberal view would be too help everyone that comes to America looking for help. A conservative view would be America can't just have an open border and let in everyone from every country. These are both rational views. Ideally both sides would compromise and find balance somewhere in the middle to help as many imagrants as is reasonably possible. Sadly that's not the case.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's hard to compromise with people who's only response to anything is to try and yell "racism" as loud as possible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When someone largely supports programs that primarily exacerbate ethnic, minority, or racial disparity. What's the correct terms?