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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You get it! We can't fuck over vulnerable people. We can't abandon minorities and LGBT people. Even if we let things get worse to the point of a societal collapse, a lot of people will die because of it -- and societal collapse has not historically led to better societies down the road.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's such an important point. Anyone who thinks a win by Trump will somehow speed up the advent of socialism is just deluded.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People think Trump will eventually make things so bad that the average man will salivate at the chance for Socialist rule...

What will actually happen if you get a nasty concoction made from a pinch of Handmaid's Tale with a dash of Holocaust 2....

And the average man won't care, as long as the trains run on time and they owned the libs... and if the trains don't run on time, they probably have libs to blame.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

trains run on time

I am here to regretfully inform you about the state of american rail infrastructure...

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I know, I sadly know.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My trans friends are what keeps me committed to voting Biden no matter how disappointed I am in him. Things are already really scary for them right now and I can't be complicit in making them worse, even through inaction.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I am trans and not voting for Biden. I refuse to sacrifice Palestinians for my own safety or the safety of my loved ones. All the stuff people say now about them being an acceptable sacrifice or there being nothing they can do about it, that's what they'll be saying about us tomorrow. Solidarity between marginalized groups is the only viable strategy for long term survival.

I hate being used as a rhetorical token to make people feel better about selling out another vulnerable group.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Biden is literally arming a genocide. He was even adamant about his continued support for that. Meanwhile Dems led cities have brutally beaten up peaceful colelge protests and invited fascist MAGA mobs to attack minority students there.

The DNC and Biden do not protect minorities. They are white supremacists with just a bit more moderation to the means they employ, but they will absolutely resort to authoritarian crackdowns if they feel the minorities to step out of line by demanding justice and rights.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We can’t fuck over vulnerable people.

That's what you're doing when voting for Dems.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, I see how you're protecting me when you elect the party that would arrest me for being a "Public Danger" because of the fact that I'm trans.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you would get off your ass and gather support for a decent party this wouldn't be a problem.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Last I tried my Socialist Party USA chapter belittled me, called me a rape apologist, and refused to do anything for the local community outside of shaming people for wanting to vote out Trump by any means possible.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

That sucks, i bet there's a more accepting party in your area for you. Try PSL or Green party

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Your lack of support for Democrats may end up empowering people who will throw me in jail just for who I am"

"Stop being lazy and go improve a better party"

You're entitled to your opinion dude, but you were a major dick here.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your lack of support for Democrats may end up empowering people who will throw me in jail just for who I am

Your support of Dems is what prevents a real opposition to fascism.

You’re entitled to your opinion dude, but you were a major dick here.

Truth hurts, don't care.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's a brutal truth for you then. Being a raging, unapologetic jerk won't progress your political goals. It'll only make them harder to achieve.

Also, you're a fucking asshole.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Here’s a brutal truth for you then. Being a raging, unapologetic jerk won’t progress your political goals. It’ll only make them harder to achieve.

My goal isn't to convince you, only show how you are wrong so people looking at this post will be influenced by it. Looking at your profile, you are too far gone.

No, you are an asshole.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What vulnerable people are dems going after?

[–] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you don't know the answer to this already, I suppose the backlash against Biden from progressives might seem like bots or foreign propaganda.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope. I just understand democracy.

[–] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago

I feel like this reply is for someone else? We're both coming from a leftist position. Democrats only think they're being overrun with bots and propaganda because they aren't actually politically informed enough to know the valid reasons why people don't like them.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The poor is the most clear. Also black people, just look at our prisons, and the crime bill Joe Biden wrote

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Show me. Tell me how the party of Obama and Harris are going after them.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's just prison stats. Nothing about what democrats are doing to make it worse

[–] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should research cop cities. Atlanta democrats voted to fund theirs.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go educate yourself, and then you can join the adult discussions.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed, hopefully someday you understand it.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Right, you should educate yourself.